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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 4:10 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 6:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 6:20 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: Magic isn't like religion, you're lying again.
Allah means God in Islam, that's it, no overthinking. Your theories about the etymology of the word Allah are unsupported nonsense.
It's not MY theory. There are multiple proofs and references for what I said. Multiple. I will post them, and YOU will be the cause of the scandal.
Allah no likey that shit.
The fact you are totally ignorant of the history of Islam is of no import. Totally utterly ignorant.
The fact is, Muhammad never existed.
I wouldn't be too trusting of the far-right AIPAC group, of which the crowd making that video are a subset of.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 4:12 pm
(July 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 6:35 pm)Loaded dice Wrote: You're bringing up Robert Spencer? are you out of your damn mind ? This guy is an outspoken anti-Muslim who founded an islamophobic group with a far-right extremist. Please bring actual info from actual scholars of Islam who aren't far-right, thanks.
Bro, I'm not the one taking my knowledge of Islam from a full-blown anti-Msulim. This is the internet, just google Islam and click on websites that aren't Robert Spencer's.
Yeah, you really are out of your mind.
Calling him an anti-Muslim proves nothing. Refute his history WITH FACTS or STFU.
Telling someone they are out of their mind just shows how ignorant, weak, and unprepared you are.
Go back to mommy and learn something.
In this case Loaded Dice is right, Spencer is a racist who is building his views, not on the evidence, but on his extremist hatred of muslims and anybody opposed to Israel.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 4:13 pm
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It's the same as any other (purportedly) legendary character from our deeply mythological religions. Do we mean the guy from the magic book, or do we mean some other guy we know nothing about that the character was loosely based on or attributed to? If we mean the latter, are we really arguing with the premise that big mo (or jesus, or buddha, or whomever) never existed?
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 4:59 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 3:54 pm)arewethereyet Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 3:32 pm)Ravenshire Wrote: @Loaded dice
Do you believe you have targeted your audience properly? Do you really believe you'll convince anyone here of your goofy religion or it's (alleged) founder the profit Muhammad (piss be upon him)? If you truly believe either of those things, you're even dumber than the proverbial bag of hammers.
Some of these theists come here thinking they are going to win over some souls/converts. Maybe to earn points with their god.
They are unable to read the room. And they prove it time and time again.
I don't think that's an apt epithet for Klor. I think the pork chop round the neck wasn't having the desired effect.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 5:07 pm
Islam, schmislam.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 5:25 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 5:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Islam, schmislam.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 5:32 pm
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(July 15, 2023 at 4:12 pm)GUBU Wrote: (July 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: Calling him an anti-Muslim proves nothing. Refute his history WITH FACTS or STFU.
Telling someone they are out of their mind just shows how ignorant, weak, and unprepared you are.
Go back to mommy and learn something.
In this case Loaded Dice is right, Spencer is a racist who is building his views, not on the evidence, but on his extremist hatred of muslims and anybody opposed to Israel.
I don't buy it.
He has legitimate reasons for questioning what he does.
If you're going to take him on, you're going to have to specifically challenge his specific historical arguments.
"Anti-Islamic" is actually irrelevant, just as Pro-Islam is irrelevant . The ONLY thing relevant is whether his history is correct or not.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 5:33 pm
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 5:56 pm
(July 15, 2023 at 5:25 pm)Fake Messiah Wrote: (July 15, 2023 at 5:07 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Islam, schmislam.
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RE: Islam owns atheism with a single verse
July 15, 2023 at 7:24 pm
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See 23:55 to 29:27.
Funny that in the Hadith, old Mo, got a rather suspicious month off every year.
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