2024 US Presidential Election

[The Grand Nudger]

Like Mitt! explained all those years ago, he was never going to get those votes anyway.

[Thumpalumpacus]

The immediacy of the plan isn’t really the issue. Even if the president had the power to summarily fire federal employees without cause (he doesn’t), candidate Ramaslamadingdong doesn’t seem to grasp that even announcing his intention to do so is going to cost him - minimally - several million votes.

Boru

His political naivete and lack of political judgement have been on display the last couple of months.

[BrianSoddingBoru4]

Like Mitt! explained all those years ago, he was never going to get those votes anyway.

On the contrary, it’s entirely possible that a significant number of civil service types might have voted for him - quite a lot of them are Trumpites, and Rama is a browner version of Trump.

But if he were to sack one million federal employees based on nothing more than their Social Security numbers, he’s going to lose their votes, along with the votes of their families, friends, and (very probably) their families’ coworkers.

Boru

[The Grand Nudger]

Didn't go too well for Mitt! either.

But yeah, since federal employees already prefer democratic candidates any plan to eliminate half the federal workforce can only lose some part of the lesser remainder of republican leaning federal employees, or the even smaller portion of fed independents who might vote for him.

I'm conflicted on whether they'd ever vote for him at all, though. Two reasons. The first being from the fed employee perspective. That these numbers we have about what federal employees tend to prefer come from a pre-open-arson period of the republican political arc. I've met alot of state employees over the years and they have a range of political views ofc but the one thing all of them seem pretty certain of is the benefit and necessity of what they do. The jobs often come with shitty pay and inflexible schedules and intrusive contract demands. With abnormally high retention - there isn't even much in the way of room for advancement or personal development. In my experience, many agreed with the idea that government should be more efficient (left and right), but none that it should not exist.

Then there's the brown thing. Maga is a white supremacist movement first and last. IDK, maybe they would chop off their nose to spite the libs - and vote for a brown hoping white jesus never made them endure that indignity again...but I doubt it. That's a bridge too far. When it comes to the business of burning our government down, even, it must be a white hand holding the torch.

[Aegon]

PANIC TIME!!!

Joe Biden Loses Lead In Latest National Poll

Biden Nose Dives In Early-State Polls

Joe Biden Will Lose A General Election To Donald Trump

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Nah, no need to panic. Those headlines are from mid-late 2019. Biden went on to win by 7 million popular votes and a 74 vote margin in the EC.

Fuck all polls.

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Boru

The US News and Politico articles are from when he was running in the Democratic primary. They said he was going to lose Iowa and New Hampshire, and that his hold in the Carolinas and Florida was flimsy. They were correct about Iowa and New Hampshire; he did not win those states, other candidates did. Obviously he ultimately won the nomination but the article was pretty accurate on the specific states analyzed. Once he won the nomination, he did end up losing to Trump in Iowa, the Carolinas, and Florida.

Jacobin is literally a socialist publication, so no surprise they thought Bernie would be better than Biden in the general election.

But you're right, polling isn't always accurate. Look at 2016 - every major pollster and publication thought Clinton had an easy victory ahead of her.

[The Grand Nudger]

Because.... as we now know...... it was a bad idea to ask a man whether he fucked with trump with his wife or a recording device present.

In the beginning, magatism was something that even the magats hid. Like they knew better or some shit.

[Fake Messiah]

[The Grand Nudger]

Good news for dead john mccain

[Silver]

DeSantis argues Trump and Biden are too old for presidency

He is not wrong.

CNN

[Silver]

Ranking the swing states: Where is Biden most in danger against Trump?

Here are the six toughest battlegrounds for Biden in November.

Arizona
Nevada
Georgia
Pennsylvania
Michigan
Wisconsin

The Hill