[split] Are Questions About God Important?

[Ahriman]

Now we're talking. Forget feeding the homeless, or sheltering them, whatever. We could use that money for more drugs.

When was the last time YOU "fed the homeless" ?

I gave a homeless dude some pizza a few years ago.

[Gawdzilla Sama]

You are confusing need and importance.  And confusing subjective and objective.
But it, ironically, isn't important.

Some folks are perpetually confused. I blame God for that.

[brewer]

Hi Boru,

How’s it going today?

Imagine that you could be convinced, in your heart of hearts, that God didn’t exist. Would you offer food to a starving child? Would you hold a door open for an elderly person? Would you cry at the funeral of a beloved friend?

Virtue is its own reward.

Yes. Yes it is. But that’s only because our culture grew out of Christianity. Yes, Romans and Greeks had virtue, but a lot of the virtues we have they did not.

For example, they might cry at the funeral of a beloved friend. Not sure they would offer food to a starving child. They might even abandon their own child to a van down by the river, :-) if they didn’t want it anymore.

Have you seen anything by Tom Holland? (No, not Peter Parker or Danny Sullivan) The historian. I can’t link to anything yet, but if you search on “Tom Holland Christianity Roman”, then you’ll find some of his publications.

The reason the questions you asked touch us is due to Christianity. Regardless of whether we agree that God exists or not, let’s be true to the social dynamics of history.

p.s. Not saying you wouldn’t be. Just stating the point for the casual reader.

bold mine: I wonder what the Buddhist's and Hindu's would think of that statement. I think you might need to take off the blinders.

[Bucky Ball]

When was the last time YOU "fed the homeless" ?

I gave a homeless dude some pizza a few years ago.

That's what I thought. Another hypocrite.
We have a group of friends in San Diego, most are atheists, who join the great people at St. Pauls (Cathedral) 
about twice a week, and do "loaves and fishes". 
Before you start preaching about homelessness, you should get off your ass, and help get feeding them done.

[Ahriman]

I gave a homeless dude some pizza a few years ago.

That's what I thought. Another hypocrite.
We have a group of friends in San Diego, most are atheists, who join the great people at St. Pauls (Cathedral) 
about twice a week, and do "loaves and fishes". 
Before you start preaching about homelessness, you should get off your ass, and help get feeding them done.

To be fair, giving a homeless dude some pizza is more than what most people do in their entire lives. And I'm not convinced that "loaves and fishes" thing isn't being done more out of a sense of obligation than genuine empathy. I'm always suspicious when people give too much.

[Thumpalumpacus]

It would be very important to me.
It wouldn't be objectively important.

What of it? Even your preference for an objective grounding is your own subjective imposition. You think objective meaning is important. How is that not your own subjective preference?

[FrustratedFool]

It would be very important to me.
It wouldn't be objectively important.

What of it? Even your preference for an objective grounding is your own subjective imposition. You think  objective meaning is important. How is that not your own subjective preference?

Are you quoting the right person here?

[Ahriman]

You objectively NEED to drink water, so water is objectively important. In a similar vein, I NEED to smoke cigarettes, so cigarettes are objectively important. If you need something so much that you can't go without it, it's objectively important.

[The Grand Nudger]

Fuck the needy, remember?

[Ahriman]

Fuck the needy, remember?

The difference is, I can afford all that stuff. Homeless people can't.