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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:33 am
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Oh no worries, but the question..and the subject of the thread amusingly enough, is why you don't follow.
Do you not follow because yuck? Non cog.
Do you not follow because you and I have not read the same source materials? Subjective.
Do you not follow because you and I were indoctrinated into disparate cultural or ideological frameworks? Relative.
Do you not follow because you or I have some fact of the matter wrong? Objective.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:48 am
I don't follow because I don't understand your posts. I'm not smart enough to work out what your words mean.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:50 am
(November 30, 2023 at 11:21 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (November 30, 2023 at 11:08 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I think you're conflating holds X to exist and prefers X to exist.
I'd prefer God to exist. I don't think he does. I'm not a theist.
-and I think gods are important....
This seems to contradict your position that for someone to claim that something is important then they implicitly claim it exists.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:51 am
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Not at all, as I'm very fond of saying..gods do exist, thousands of them..and it's not hard to find their effects on the world. They're in the set of facts about a community of people. Relative.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:53 am
(November 30, 2023 at 11:51 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: Not at all, as I'm very fond of saying..gods do exist, thousands of them..and it's not hard to find their effects on the world. They're in the set of facts about a community of people. Relative.
What does Shiva do for the world?
"Imagination, life is your creation"
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:54 am
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Now we've moved from the ambiguity over what we mean by importance and objective to exist. Oh well. I don't stand a chance. Maybe all such discussions should be preface by a definition of relevant terms to avoid all this.
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:58 am
(November 30, 2023 at 11:54 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Now we've moved from the ambiguity over what we mean by importance and objective to exist. Oh well. I don't stand a chance. Maybe all such discussions should be preface by a definition of relevant terms to avoid all this.
Is drinking water important?
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 11:58 am
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(November 30, 2023 at 11:48 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I don't follow because I don't understand your posts. I'm not smart enough to work out what your words mean.
I'm absolutely certain that you are - and this is an answer to to question. It's an issue of smarts (and you may have the relationship inverted). Objective.
If you knew more, or if I knew more, maybe we would be able to follow or agree.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 12:01 pm
(November 30, 2023 at 11:58 am)The Grand Nudger Wrote: (November 30, 2023 at 11:48 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: I don't follow because I don't understand your posts. I'm not smart enough to work out what your words mean.
I'm absolutely certain that you are - and this is an answer to to question. It's an issue of smarts (and you may have the relationship inverted). Objective.
If you knew more, or if I knew more, maybe we would be able to follow or agree.
Maybe we need to communicate differently.
Please define the following terms (how you are using them here):
Important
Objective
Objectivist
Exist
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RE: [split] Are Questions About God Important?
November 30, 2023 at 12:01 pm
(November 30, 2023 at 11:58 am)Ahriman Wrote: (November 30, 2023 at 11:54 am)FrustratedFool Wrote: Now we've moved from the ambiguity over what we mean by importance and objective to exist. Oh well. I don't stand a chance. Maybe all such discussions should be preface by a definition of relevant terms to avoid all this.
Is drinking water important?
To whom?
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