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Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
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Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
The danger of pressing Iran too hard is that they feel compelled to build one or more nuclear devices as a last resort. Israel's assaults on them may have already pushed them to that point. One could make the argument that it's out of our hands now. Will we at some point feel compelled to finish the job by using bunker buster bombs to destroy Iran's deep nuclear facilities? Kill the wounded animal Israel has left us with?

Forcing regime changes in the Middle East has a terrible track record. I wonder though if we are going to be left with much of a choice here.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 18, 2025 at 12:27 pm)AFTT47 Wrote: The danger of pressing Iran too hard is that they feel compelled to build one or more nuclear devices as a last resort. Israel's assaults on them may have already pushed them to that point. One could make the argument that it's out of our hands now. Will we at some point feel compelled to finish the job by using bunker buster bombs to destroy Iran's deep nuclear facilities? Kill the wounded animal Israel has left us with?

Forcing regime changes in the Middle East has a terrible track record. I wonder though if we are going to be left with much of a choice here.

Possibly. It could be as well that Israel's strikes accomplish the intended mission and cripple the Iranian nuclear program to such an extent that Iran is left unable to rush build any weapon.

I'm sick of Israel dragging America around by its unconditional support. We need politicians in DC with the starch to tell Israel "no".

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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
I don't know enough about it to formulate an educated opinion, but it seems to me that if the conflict has been going on for generations that nothing short of annihilation can end it.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
If some country needs to be bombed then why not bomb the aggressor?
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 18, 2025 at 12:48 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: If some country needs to be bombed then why not bomb the aggressor?

Let's get real. We're NOT going to wipe out Israel.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 18, 2025 at 12:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm sick of Israel dragging America around by its unconditional support. We need politicians in DC with the starch to tell Israel "no".

For sure. Unfortunately, that ship has sailed when it comes to the latest crisis.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 18, 2025 at 12:54 pm)AFTT47 Wrote:
(June 18, 2025 at 12:48 pm)Ivan Denisovich Wrote: If some country needs to be bombed then why not bomb the aggressor?

Let's get real. We're NOT going to wipe out Israel.

It's armed forces should be bombed to shit, just like Yugoslavian forces back in the day. Whether israel is committing genocide or ethnic cleansing precedent for use of the force exists. World does not have balls for this though. As for Iran I see absolutely no reason for which USA should attack this country and compound certain rogue state error.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
As long as Netanyahu remains in power, under the threat from the courts of Israel, he will continue to drum up unnecessary conflict in the region. The world needs a Mossad type assassination to take him out.
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(June 18, 2025 at 12:42 pm)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: I'm sick of Israel dragging America around by its unconditional support. We need politicians in DC with the starch to tell Israel "no".

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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
Genocidal Theocracy A formulates excuse to commit mass murder in Genocidal Theocracy B...
Thousands of civilians caught in the middle.
Frankly both could do with a change of political leadership for much the same reason as a nappy needs changing.
Hopefully there's an option that doesn't involve irradiating everything from the Nile to the Indus.
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