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Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
#21
RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
Of course, each side is going to have the personal notion of defense. But let's weigh them on a social scale to determine who's most at fault.
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#22
RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 19, 2025 at 12:38 pm)Silver Wrote: Of course, each side is going to have the personal notion of defense. But let's weigh them on a social scale to determine who's most at fault.

That’s an easy one: Israel. When you attack a country that hasn’t attacked you, you’re the aggressor.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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#23
RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 19, 2025 at 1:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 19, 2025 at 12:38 pm)Silver Wrote: Of course, each side is going to have the personal notion of defense. But let's weigh them on a social scale to determine who's most at fault.

That’s an easy one: Israel. When you attack a country that hasn’t attacked you, you’re the aggressor.

Boru

First hit is certainly a determining factor.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 19, 2025 at 1:32 pm)Silver Wrote:
(June 19, 2025 at 1:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: That’s an easy one: Israel. When you attack a country that hasn’t attacked you, you’re the aggressor.

Boru

First hit is certainly a determining factor.

It is the determining factor. ‘Preemptive first strike’ is garbage speak for ‘I thought he might hit me so I hit him back first.’

Boru
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 19, 2025 at 1:30 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote:
(June 19, 2025 at 12:38 pm)Silver Wrote: Of course, each side is going to have the personal notion of defense. But let's weigh them on a social scale to determine who's most at fault.

That’s an easy one: Israel. When you attack a country that hasn’t attacked you, you’re the aggressor.

Boru

I recall several waves of Iranian missile attacks against Israel last year, as well as Iranian support for Hamas, Hezbollah, and other designated terrorist organizations.

So who is at fault is not quite so clear.  Personally, I blame the religious people.
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
Iran was probably behind the October 7th attacks. Hezbollah and Hamas are being directly supported by Iran.
 
Iran is still far from having atomic weapons. It needs months and perhaps even years to build one. But it’s the same as Saddam Hussein. It’s a regime that oppresses its own people. So if Trump doesn’t smash them now some other nation will have to do it at some point.
 
+ Huge sums of money are being spent on this war (200 million dollar / day). Eliminating people’s desperation around the world and the promotion and maintaining of democratic + undemocratic but acceptable forms of governance should be our priority.

/ And that’s not on Netanyahu’s + Trump's Agenda.
 
Also: Did you see this on Social Media?

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It says "Dictator Approved"

It also says:

“President Trump is a very bright and talented man,” (V.Putin)
 
“The most respected, the most feared person is Donald Trump.” (V. Orban)
 
“We do have a great deal of shared values. I admire President Trump.” (J Bolsonaro)
 
“Your excellency,” “A ‘special relationship” and, “The extraordinary courage of President Trump.” (Kim Yon Un)
 
Smile
 
/It looks like somebody just left this in front of the Capitol in Washington D.C. Smile
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RE: Is Israel Forcing Our Hand?
(June 19, 2025 at 12:32 pm)BrianSoddingBoru4 Wrote: Apparently, Israel has the right to defend itsel, but Iran does not.

Boru

like the man said about the chatty drunk at a dui stop.  He has the right, but not the ability.
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