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Damned Christians
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Evangelical Legal Group Asks Supreme Court to Overturn Same-Sex Marriage Ruling

A conservative Christian legal group asked the United States Supreme Court to review a decade-old case involving a former Kentucky county clerk who cited her faith when she refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples — a long-shot effort activists hope will result in justices ending nationwide legalization of same-sex marriage.

Liberty Counsel, a legal nonprofit that also describes itself as a Christian ministry, has long been involved in the case of Kim Davis, the Kentucky clerk who in 2015 gained international attention after she wouldn’t issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples despite the Obergefell v. Hodges Supreme Court decision, which legalized same-sex marriage nationwide that same year.

Davis’ refusal — which she said was rooted in her evangelical Christian faith — led to a series of legal battles she lost, resulting in a brief prison sentence as well as being ordered to pay $100,000 in damages as well as additional legal fees.

The nonprofit filed a petition with the court on Thursday (July 24), requesting an appeal to Davis’ case and asking the court to overturn Obergefell.

Liberty Counsel founder Mathew Staver said multiple justices have voiced frustration with the Obergefell decision over the years. When the court passed over Davis’ case in 2020, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote a statement joined by Justice Samuel Alito that blasted the same-sex marriage ruling, saying, “Davis may have been one of the first victims of this court’s cavalier treatment of religion in its Obergefell decision.”

“We think that it’s not a matter of if, but just a matter of when, the Supreme Court will overrule Obergefell,” Staver said.

The court has grown more conservative since the 2020 ruling, with Justice Amy Coney Barrett — who has voiced criticism of Obergefell in the past — filling the slot on the bench left open after the death of liberal jurist Ruth Bader Ginsburg. And Thomas explicitly called for Obergefell to be reconsidered in his concurring opinion for Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, the 2022 ruling that overturned Roe v. Wade, the landmark 1973 decision that legalized abortion nationwide.

https://wordandway.org/2025/07/31/evange...ge-ruling/
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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America seems to be moving back into the 1950's or even earlier, I would not be surprised if they tried to bring back prohibition and slavery (but only for black people of course!)
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(July 31, 2025 at 4:50 pm)zebo-the-fat Wrote: America seems to be moving back into the 1950's or even earlier, I would not be surprised if they tried to bring back prohibition and slavery (but only for black people of course!)

Slavery is more likely. Far too many boozy Christians to bring back Prohibition.

Boru
‘I can’t be having with this.’ - Esmeralda Weatherwax
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Wow, there are so many ways to make a shitload of money through religion.

Quote:Miami pastor, associate accused of $21K fraud scheme targeting immigrants

A Miami pastor and an associate are behind bars after authorities said they orchestrated a months-long fraud scheme that targeted immigrants seeking legal assistance, using a church as the front.

According to arrest reports, between April 2024 and January 2025, Ochoa Vasquez introduced at least 16 victims to Gonzalez through his church, falsely claiming Gonzalez was an immigration attorney who could help them obtain work permits and driver’s licenses.

Victims paid more than $21,000 through Zelle payments made to a company registered to Gonzalez, Brothers Multiservicio LLC, or in cash directly to Pastor Ochoa Vasquez, according to the reports.

Detectives said neither man provided the promised services or issued refunds. Subpoenaed financial records show the funds were spent on luxury items from brands like Gucci, Louis Vuitton, and Fendi, as well as travel to South America and Europe.

https://wsvn.com/news/local/miami-dade/m...mmigrants/

Former pastor sentenced to 12 years for theft of charitable funds, patronizing prostitution

Criminal Court Judge sentenced 83-year-old James Neil Gill to 12 years in the Tennessee Department of Correction following his guilty pleas to Theft of Property over $60,000 (Class B felony) and Patronizing Prostitution (Class A misdemeanor).

Gill, the former Executive Director of the Sumner County Food Bank (SCFB) and senior pastor of Liberty Baptist Church in Gallatin, misused charitable donations meant to serve vulnerable residents. In May 2022, the Sumner County District Attorney’s Office requested assistance from the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation (TBI) regarding suspected financial misconduct involving Gill and SCFB’s operations account.

The TBI investigation revealed that Gill:

●Issued checks to himself and others

●Redirected food bank funds to personal and unrelated nonprofit accounts he controlled

●Used food bank resources to pay a female volunteer in exchange for sexual services

●Made extensive personal purchases using the SCFB debit card

●Funded improvements to his private residence with SCFB funds

Between February 2020 and May 2022, records show Gill authorized the misappropriation of substantial charitable assets, including:

●Over $200,000 in payments to himself

●$130,000 to the Director of Operations

●$40,000 to the SCFB Treasurer

●Nearly 100 checks made out to “cash,” all endorsed by Gill

●Purchase of a 2018 Chevy Silverado for personal use, directly from the SCFB account

https://www.wbbjtv.com/2025/08/01/former...stitution/



Former Frisco pastor indicted on child pornography charges

Jim Mustain, 64, was indicted last Tuesday on four counts of possession of child pornography, a first-degree felony. His bond was set at $100,000 and he was in custody as of Tuesday.

Mustain served as a community pastor at Preston Trail Community Church between 2019 and 2023.

Mustain has served in pastoral positions at other churches outside the state and in North Texas, including a stint as pastor for community and life transformation at Valley Ranch Baptist Church in Coppell from 2005 to 2014, according to The Roys Report religious watchdog blog.

He was active in several community groups as well, working with Christian-based organizations including Christian Community Action and Forge Dallas. He also previously held Place No. 7 on the City of Lewisville’s Community Development Block Grant Advisory Committee, served on the Board of Directors of the Lewisville Area Chamber of Commerce, founded the public charity Loving Community in Denton County and volunteered in the Lewisville school district.

https://www.keranews.org/criminal-justic...lewisville



Tucson pastor Isaac Noriega faces court amid abuse allegations

A Tucson pastor, Isaac Noriega of the Golden Dawn Tabernacle Church, faced court proceedings over allegations of neglecting to address abuse within his congregation. More than a dozen former church members attended the hearing to voice their concerns.

As Noriega walked the courthouse hallway, he was followed by former members, including Levi Duenas. Duenas expressed worry about Noriega's influence over the congregation. "We are no longer afraid of you. We are not afraid to stand up to you," said Duenas.

The charges against Noriega stem from allegations connected to Jose Mora, who faces five counts of child molestation. Mora's alleged offenses date back to 2012 and 2004, involving victims between the ages of 12 and 14.

https://www.kvoa.com/news/local/tucson-p...b47be.html
teachings of the Bible are so muddled and self-contradictory that it was possible for Christians to happily burn heretics alive for five long centuries. It was even possible for the most venerated patriarchs of the Church, like St. Augustine and St. Thomas Aquinas, to conclude that heretics should be tortured (Augustine) or killed outright (Aquinas). Martin Luther and John Calvin advocated the wholesale murder of heretics, apostates, Jews, and witches. - Sam Harris, "Letter To A Christian Nation"
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