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Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
#91
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
(January 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm)Aegrus Wrote: Oops, I missed one. You also said that the religious people in hell would try to convert me to their beliefs. Yet, me and my atheist buddies would simply reveal ourselves for the demons we truly are, and rip the theists to shreds. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yep, I'm a demon. ROFLOL
And there's nothing you can do to stop my evil conquest of all of humanity.

Now, to lower myself to GC's level for a moment. . .
Prove that I'm not a demon.

I was kidding around about other religions and the people of them trying to convert someone, gee whiz, lighten up some. If you wind up in hell you will be all alone, your own little space of darkness to live in self inflicted torment. To answer your statement "prove that I'm not a demon," why, you said you are, do you think I believe you are lying about it. As for the evil conquest of humanity, not goin' to happen, that my friend is definitely not in God's will.
(January 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: My true name is Loki. i am currently cursed with a mortal form that holds back my awesome spiritual powers. All of your preaching means nothing to me, for I hold true spiritual powers not only of the blood of Woden, but of the Ice Giants. i have the ability to kill a god, any god or goddess, and preferably EVERY god and goddess.

GC, you have no idea what you are messing with.

Just an old coot who is delusional at best and insane at worst.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#92
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
Godschild, upon reading your posts I have come to the conclusion that the ONLY thing that you can explain, in any accurate detail whatsoever is how big of a crazy moron and hypocrite you are. Not intentionally, mind you, cause I am afraid that you lack the braincells for such vocality in the context of your absurd war on reality, (i.e. the truth). But by your actions and your words, you confirm my assessment that you are unfit for being taken seriously.

However, you are extremely qualified to proceed in this little place I heard about called HELL, according to your own (non-existent) logic anyway.


And now if you'll excuse me, I have to go back to ignoring willful idiots.
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#93
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
Quote:Hell is a place of loneliness, regret and a place where one can keep on rejecting Christ and become more resentful of being in hell.
rev.j Wrote:Oh, okay. So I will be in a dark an lonely place.

Yep! Without the comforting presence of others, even if you had others around you they would be dealing with their own misery and not one bit interested in you.

rev.j Wrote:but wait, why would I regret "rejecting" christ. I read the new testament and i can honestly say to you that I think Jesus is fucking scum. So why would I regret "rejecting" him when I have used my reason to decide that Jesus is a scum bag?

So, I can tell you that I will not be regretting "jesus" in this Hell of yours...unless, of course, you think your god FORCES me to regret.

But, then again, that would go against freewill.

Sorry, no freewill for you in hell, part of the punishment. After standing in front of God and understanding what you truly rejected, you will have considerable regrets. You will still believe that Jesus is a scum bag and anything else you want to, however you will find no peace in any of it, just unrelenting misery.

rev.j Wrote:Also, I enjoy time to myself....what you describe as a Hell sounds like a nice place. Nice and quiet.


Want be quiet, don't forget about the weeping and gnashing of teeth, that will be your constant companion.

rev.j Wrote:I also want to add that Hell will have great food, excellent beer and wine, and hot ass men and women.

Now rev. I explained this to you on more than one occasion, what's the matter memory getting bad. There will be no breakfast, lunch, dinner or snacks in hell, you will have no companionship either, geez we've been over this, so no pleasures shall you have. As for drinking, remember the rich man that's in hell and he asked for just one drop of water on his tongue, he did not receive it.

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(January 14, 2012 at 12:34 am)Aegrus Wrote: It's clear there's no reasoning with Godschild. He's even said that he will defend the bible until his death, so one wonders. . .why is he even on this forum?

He's clearly not looking for information, and yet he'd have to be a complete idiot to think that the fallacious, proof-less arguments he has used can convert anyone. Is he simply looking to stir up trouble?

Let me explain this once again, I'm here to learn, as people bring up questions regarding God or the scriptures that I have never considered or have found no answer for then I must study to find an answer thus giving me a better understanding of God and his Word. I never came here to convert anyone but, if that were to happen then great, awesome and ect. I do not want trouble, if I did I would be a troll and would be self defeating. I listen more than you might imagine, I've actually taken a lot from this site.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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#94
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
(January 14, 2012 at 5:10 am)Godschild Wrote: If you wind up in hell you will be all alone, your own little space of darkness to live in self inflicted torment.
Being alone isn't a bad thing.

According to your own beliefs there was darkness before there was light, its the original state, the void is the truth of reality, before God perverted the darkness with light out of boredom of being all alone with no one else to torment.

And why would I torment myself? Because I didn't get into your sky daddy's elite club? Do you honestly think we're so childish that we can't handle the rejection you fear? Oh do fuck off.


(January 14, 2012 at 5:46 am)Godschild Wrote: Sorry, no freewill for you in hell, part of the punishment.
So how can WE possibly torment OURSELVES?

You don't seem to appreciate or care that you've contradicted yourself from the start.


Quote:Want be quiet, don't forget about the weeping and gnashing of teeth, that will be your constant companion.
We're no strangers to misery. Apparently you are, otherwise you'd have an ounce of compassion or sympathy for those who are suffering now and will continue to feel that way.


Quote:I'm here to learn
I doubt that very much.
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#95
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
Script
GC: Makes claim
Sane Individual: Calls GC on bullshit claim.
GC: Er...just kidding.

Clap

So, now hell is eternal solitary confinement? What was that about God not being a torturer? Sounds a bit like the crackpot we discussed months ago with his chimps and solitary and rape cages. Destroy a social animal's social ties and you destroy the animal. Want to borrow my soapbox btw? How difficult can it possibly be to add "I believe" in front of a statement of faith to avoid coming off like a condescending asshole?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#96
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
(January 14, 2012 at 5:10 am)Godschild Wrote:
(January 13, 2012 at 7:05 pm)Aegrus Wrote: Oops, I missed one. You also said that the religious people in hell would try to convert me to their beliefs. Yet, me and my atheist buddies would simply reveal ourselves for the demons we truly are, and rip the theists to shreds. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yep, I'm a demon. ROFLOL
And there's nothing you can do to stop my evil conquest of all of humanity.

Now, to lower myself to GC's level for a moment. . .
Prove that I'm not a demon.

I was kidding around about other religions and the people of them trying to convert someone, gee whiz, lighten up some. If you wind up in hell you will be all alone, your own little space of darkness to live in self inflicted torment. To answer your statement "prove that I'm not a demon," why, you said you are, do you think I believe you are lying about it. As for the evil conquest of humanity, not goin' to happen, that my friend is definitely not in God's will.
(January 13, 2012 at 7:50 pm)reverendjeremiah Wrote: My true name is Loki. i am currently cursed with a mortal form that holds back my awesome spiritual powers. All of your preaching means nothing to me, for I hold true spiritual powers not only of the blood of Woden, but of the Ice Giants. i have the ability to kill a god, any god or goddess, and preferably EVERY god and goddess.

GC, you have no idea what you are messing with.

Just an old coot who is delusional at best and insane at worst.

The first thing I will do after I break this curse is to take the soul of GC and hand it over to my daughter Hel. She will enjoy using your soul as her plaything. Then I will seek out the destruction of Thor and woden so I may claim what is rightfully mine...the throne of Asgard.

GC, your cries onto your false god will not be heard.
Quote:Yep! Without the comforting presence of others, even if you had others around you they would be dealing with their own misery and not one bit interested in you.
Wrong. Happiness is what you make of it.
Quote:Sorry, no freewill for you in hell, part of the punishment. After standing in front of God and understanding what you truly rejected, you will have considerable regrets. You will still believe that Jesus is a scum bag and anything else you want to, however you will find no peace in any of it, just unrelenting misery.
Freewill, no freewill, make up your mind GC. You sound horribly confused. I clearly understand what I am "rejecting" (more like brushing it off as mythology). I will receive peace and quiet in my death wether you want it or not, and all of the bible verses in the world will not change that.
Quote:Want be quiet, don't forget about the weeping and gnashing of teeth, that will be your constant companion.
Unlike you GC, I am not an emotional basket case. So flat out you and your bible are dead wrong
Quote:Now rev. I explained this to you on more than one occasion, what's the matter memory getting bad. There will be no breakfast, lunch, dinner or snacks in hell, you will have no companionship either, geez we've been over this, so no pleasures shall you have. As for drinking, remember the rich man that's in hell and he asked for just one drop of water on his tongue, he did not receive it.
There willbe story time in hell. We will have some bad ass sporting events and people will be very happy, living life with freedom. You can eat all that you want without becoming fat and you can drink all you want without a hangover. Hell is going to be an awesome and pleasurable place to spend eternity. You will look down upon us in heaven and think "Gee, those guys down there are really great. I wish I could join them". But you will not, because your tyrant of a God will insist that you bow and worship him for another 10 billion years straight while I will be writting music with the likes of Cliff Burton and Randy Rhodes.
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#97
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
Ah yes, but GC is going to be managing a galaxy and jamming with god on his ethereal Les Paul...remember?
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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#98
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
(January 14, 2012 at 3:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Ah yes, but GC is going to be managing a galaxy and jamming with god on his ethereal Les Paul...remember?

Have pity on the inhabitants of said galaxy.

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#99
RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
(January 14, 2012 at 3:45 pm)Cthulhu Dreaming Wrote:
(January 14, 2012 at 3:29 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Ah yes, but GC is going to be managing a galaxy and jamming with god on his ethereal Les Paul...remember?

Have pity on the inhabitants of said galaxy.

Sounds like Hell to me...that and it is a blasphemy to think that a Les Paul were being used to play religious cult music.
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RE: Hell is theologically impossible if God is omnipotent.
Why would they play that garbage? They're going to be playing all the sweet licks they stole from the sinners below, being driven insane with eternal solitude and "fiery not-fire" by GC's "not-a-torturer".

It just occurred to me, GC's god is almost entirely unrecognizable from Gollum.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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