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RE: I'm coming out of the closet, wish me luck.
February 5, 2012 at 1:33 pm
Good for you ^_^ I'm glad that more gay people are feeling comfo-wait.
*reads*
Sigh... atheism is not a big deal. Whatever.
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February 5, 2012 at 1:37 pm
(February 5, 2012 at 11:22 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: it relies on as many provable facts as possible.
This seems to be a common missconception about atheism. There is no litmus test for "true atheism". There are no prerequisites to not believe in god. You could be an atheist because your cat told you that there was no god and you would be just as atheist as anyone else.
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February 5, 2012 at 2:06 pm
(February 5, 2012 at 11:22 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: (February 5, 2012 at 2:32 am)Phil Wrote: Was this the same closet R. Kelly was trapped in?
Who's R. Kelly?
Here sir.
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February 5, 2012 at 4:27 pm
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(February 5, 2012 at 2:06 pm)Phil Wrote: (February 5, 2012 at 11:22 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: (February 5, 2012 at 2:32 am)Phil Wrote: Was this the same closet R. Kelly was trapped in?
Who's R. Kelly?
Here sir.
Thanks for the link, the song kind of sucks but at least it explains the South park episode about Scientology. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tXBCPTo7...re=related
(February 5, 2012 at 1:37 pm)Rhizomorph13 Wrote: (February 5, 2012 at 11:22 am)Ziploc Surprise Wrote: it relies on as many provable facts as possible.
This seems to be a common missconception about atheism. There is no litmus test for "true atheism". There are no prerequisites to not believe in god. You could be an atheist because your cat told you that there was no god and you would be just as atheist as anyone else.
I suppose you're right, to not believe you simply must not believe. In my post I was talking more about what is needed to explain phenomena. Religion needs to find some sort of explanation for phenomena so it can keep it's people from going to sources for these explanations that will contradict the religious texts/doctrine. You would not want to lose converts to truth and provable fact. It's one thing to believe or not believe it's another thing to remain this way in the face of new information.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise
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February 5, 2012 at 5:41 pm
Congrats Ziploc. Your life is definitely taking a turn for the better. It did for me. It is such a sense of relief in so many ways. I'm sure certain members of your former congregation are praying and trying to save your soul from eternal damnation. Some will ostracized you. But you are better off without them. Good luck.
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February 6, 2012 at 2:26 am
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(February 5, 2012 at 1:33 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Good for you ^_^ I'm glad that more gay people are feeling comfo-wait.
*reads*
Sigh... atheism is not a big deal. Whatever. ^This.
I don't have a problem that you're gay. I don't know why you would think a site full of atheists would... oh, er, you meant as an atheist, and to other peopl... OK, yeah, I got it.
It seems... unnecessary. I'm sorry that I don't know the background of the situation, but that's how it seems.
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February 6, 2012 at 10:46 am
(February 6, 2012 at 2:26 am)AthiestAtheist Wrote: (February 5, 2012 at 1:33 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: Good for you ^_^ I'm glad that more gay people are feeling comfo-wait.
*reads*
Sigh... atheism is not a big deal. Whatever. ^This.
I don't have a problem that you're gay. I don't know why you would think a site full of atheists would... oh, er, you meant as an atheist, and to other peopl... OK, yeah, I got it.
It seems... unnecessary. I'm sorry that I don't know the background of the situation, but that's how it seems. In the past the saying "to come out of the closet" was not limited t homosexuality. You could use it for any secret that has now been made public. I was unaware of the change. People (old people at least) still use the term as it has always been used.
I have studied the Bible and the theology behind Christianity for many years. I have been to many churches. I have walked the depth and the breadth of the religion and, as a result of this, I have a lot of bullshit to scrape off the bottom of my shoes. ~Ziploc Surprise
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February 6, 2012 at 11:23 am
I don't understand why you felt the need to write that letter. You left the church, why bother telling them why and suffering their attempts to evangelize you back into the fold and their possible ire? They will never understand, so why tell them? What in the world did you owe them? Your wasted time from all the years you spent believing something that wasn't true?
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February 6, 2012 at 2:21 pm
I don't understand how a joke is taken seriously enough for two people to respond seriously.
Especially when I was the one who said it.
Atheism is not a big deal though
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RE: I'm coming out of the closet, wish me luck.
February 6, 2012 at 3:13 pm
(February 6, 2012 at 2:21 pm)Vaeolet Lilly Blossom Wrote: I don't understand how a joke is taken seriously enough for two people to respond seriously.
This is the internet.
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