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Bible contradictions?
RE: Bible contradictions?
(March 8, 2012 at 7:00 pm)chipan Wrote:
Phil Wrote:WTF, does anyone understand that this is an admission by chiapet that he accepts evolution? Not what he calls microevolution but full bore speciation or what the apologist crew calls macroevolution. Small steps chiapet, a long journey begins with just one small step. Now take the next ones.

No, you don't see my point. I believe all the kinds of animals were created then. The only change would be variety of kinds such as a wolf and many kinds of dogs had a common ancestor. What I was saying is no animal back then is alive today and there are more animals in the wold today then back then. So obviously when he said "every" he did not mean every animal that exists today or even in Moses' time. He meant every kind of animal was made back then. Then he made at least 2 of every kind again for the garden so Adam could name them (no specific number is given).

You can't change your story now. I sent a copy to your pastor and he is assembling a posse with pitchforks.
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RE: Bible contradictions?
(March 8, 2012 at 7:00 pm)chipan Wrote: No, you don't see my point. I believe all the kinds of animals were created then. The only change would be variety of kinds such as a wolf and many kinds of dogs had a common ancestor. What I was saying is no animal back then is alive today and there are more animals in the wold today then back then. So obviously when he said "every" he did not mean every animal that exists today or even in Moses' time. He meant every kind of animal was made back then. Then he made at least 2 of every kind again for the garden so Adam could name them (no specific number is given).

Surely you jest? There is a smaller selection of "kinds" today than there would have been "back then". Also, what makes you think that "no animal back then is alive today"...here we are, just for the very first example, and I could name dozens more just to embarrass the shit out of you. What's the big idea, is evolution happening or not? You people can never seem to decide that for yourselves. No specific number is given because the author had no fucking clue, but notice that kangaroos were not mentioned. No idea why that would be. Wink Shades

No one sees your point because you don't have one.

Evidence?

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RE: Bible contradictions?
(March 8, 2012 at 9:50 pm)Rhythm Wrote:
(March 8, 2012 at 7:00 pm)chipan Wrote:
Phil Wrote:WTF, does anyone understand that this is an admission by chiapet that he accepts evolution? Not what he calls microevolution but full bore speciation or what the apologist crew calls macroevolution. Small steps chiapet, a long journey begins with just one small step. Now take the next ones.

No, you don't see my point. I believe all the kinds of animals were created then. The only change would be variety of kinds such as a wolf and many kinds of dogs had a common ancestor. What I was saying is no animal back then is alive today and there are more animals in the wold today then back then. So obviously when he said "every" he did not mean every animal that exists today or even in Moses' time. He meant every kind of animal was made back then. Then he made at least 2 of every kind again for the garden so Adam could name them (no specific number is given).

Surely you jest? There is a smaller selection of "kinds" today than there would have been "back then". What's the big idea, is evolution happening or not? You people can never seem to decide that for yourselves. No specific number is given because the author had no fucking clue, but notice that kangaroos were not mentioned. No idea why that would be. Wink Shades

Seems that Noah had to walk from the middle east to Australia to get the other marsupials though. Kind of weird that a loving god would ask a 600 year old man to do that when he had younger men (like Noah's sons) available. Just more proof that the bible stories are stupid. But those that believe them are stupider and those that defend them (apologists) are stupiderer.
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RE: Bible contradictions?
Quote:Seems that Noah had to walk from the middle east to Australia to get the other marsupials though.


Why do I think that the primitive old fucks who wrote this shit had never seen a marsupial which is an even better reason for them not being there?
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RE: Bible contradictions?
Just look at the convenient way these creature re-distributeded themselves after "the flood", convenient for evolution by natural selection, that is. Probably the work of none other than Satan himself.
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RE: Bible contradictions?
The problem of getting all the animals to the Middle East isn't half as bad as getting them from the Ararat region to all the different parts of the world we find them today without leaving any trace of their respective journeys. Moreover, there is the question of why particular species (or kinds or whatever label you think works) occupying broadly similar climates chose to stop off in one country instead of another. For example, why are there no panthers to be found in Africa, nor lions in South America? Presumably their Noachian ancestors would have had to pass through the one continent to get to the other, if only in part. Then there's Australia with an ecosystem all its own; presumably all the marsupials which inhabit the particular niches taken up by non-marsupials in every other country had to travel all the way to their continent en masse without leaving behind any traces anywhere else in the world. Not only that but they just happened to be exactly the right creatures to fill the available niches when they got there.

The more you pick at it, the more you come to realise that this flood thing truly is unbelievable.

Edit: Bugger, beaten to the punch again. Ah well, mine's more verbose.
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist.  This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair.  Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second.  That means there's a situation vacant.'
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RE: Bible contradictions?
Quote:The problem of getting all the animals to the Middle East isn't half as bad as getting them from the Ararat region to all the different parts of the world we find them today without leaving any trace of their respective journeys.


Ah, yes. As I've always said:

On Day One, the gazelles and zebra and wildebeest and lions start on the long walk back to Africa.

Day Two: The lions get hungry.
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RE: Bible contradictions?
Scanning Bible...

Warning, warning, errors detected.

Number of contradictions found... Many!
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."

-Ruta Skadi, The Subtle Knife
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RE: Bible contradictions?
I can explain all the problems away easily.

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RE: Bible contradictions?
Satan fucks up gods divine plan with a few words.

God then spends next 6000 years trying to set things right.

AND STILL HASN'T SUCCEEDED!!!!

Well played Satan.

Very well played.

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