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Fun Bible Facts
#11
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(March 19, 2012 at 9:19 am)Phil Wrote: us Jews like to fuck.

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#12
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(March 19, 2012 at 8:55 pm)Drich Wrote: Why do you believe "youth" to be what we consider to be young?

The Bible says so. Sarah in the passage I cited was too old to have children and she was not yet 100. It took a miracle from the Lord to make her bear a child.

Quote:Would it not make sense if you were a slave owning nation undergoing a massive building project, to encourage or even force the production of more "free labor?" Thereby increasing the number of "wives" a man would typically have. Remember they were all considered to be properity of Pharroh, and it was left to him to feed and provide for the mass of Jews... Not what the man of the house could afford.
(The US did the same thing a few hundred years ago when the importing of slave became more restrictive)

Interesting ad hoc hypothesis. Got any proof to back it up or are you just engaging in wild unsupported speculation to dismiss any contrary evidence to your a priori assumption that there's a natural explanation for the explosive population growth? A good start would be to cite references to Egyptian history that slaves were provided abundant wives contrary to the way slaves are typically treated.
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church

™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. 

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#13
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfAMj5dZr...re=related
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#14
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(March 19, 2012 at 9:32 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:
(March 19, 2012 at 8:55 pm)Drich Wrote: Why do you believe "youth" to be what we consider to be young?

The Bible says so. Sarah in the passage I cited was too old to have children and she was not yet 100. It took a miracle from the Lord to make her bear a child.

Quote:Would it not make sense if you were a slave owning nation undergoing a massive building project, to encourage or even force the production of more "free labor?" Thereby increasing the number of "wives" a man would typically have. Remember they were all considered to be properity of Pharroh, and it was left to him to feed and provide for the mass of Jews... Not what the man of the house could afford.
(The US did the same thing a few hundred years ago when the importing of slave became more restrictive)

Interesting ad hoc hypothesis. Got any proof to back it up or are you just engaging in wild unsupported speculation to dismiss any contrary evidence to your a priori assumption that there's a natural explanation for the explosive population growth? A good start would be to cite references to Egyptian history that slaves were provided abundant wives contrary to the way slaves are typically treated.

Are you contesting the fact that Slaves are bred like stock to animals to fill quotas in communities that work and trade in slaves? do you deny that the united states did this very thing when the importation of slaves was ban. Or Do you not understand where a nation like Egypt would have to source slaves if they did not simply breed the stock they currently maintained? Why go through the expense/effort when it would be so much easier to simply make the decree and provide the opportunity for slaves to "beget' more slaves?

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(March 19, 2012 at 10:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Are you contesting the fact that Slaves are bred like stock to animals to fill quotas in communities that work and trade in slaves? do you deny that the united states did this very thing when the importation of slaves was ban. Or Do you not understand where a nation like Egypt would have to source slaves if they did not simply breed the stock they currently maintained? Why go through the expense/effort when it would be so much easier to simply make the decree and provide the opportunity for slaves to "beget' more slaves?

If you're going to suggest that each Jewish slave was offered so many wives or opportunities to breed as to have an average of 52 children with each generation, the burden of proof is on you. Can we see it please or can we call it a miracle?
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church

™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. 

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#16
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(March 19, 2012 at 11:05 pm)YahwehIsTheWay Wrote:
(March 19, 2012 at 10:47 pm)Drich Wrote: Are you contesting the fact that Slaves are bred like stock to animals to fill quotas in communities that work and trade in slaves? do you deny that the united states did this very thing when the importation of slaves was ban. Or Do you not understand where a nation like Egypt would have to source slaves if they did not simply breed the stock they currently maintained? Why go through the expense/effort when it would be so much easier to simply make the decree and provide the opportunity for slaves to "beget' more slaves?

If you're going to suggest that each Jewish slave was offered so many wives or opportunities to breed as to have an average of 52 children with each generation, the burden of proof is on you. Can we see it please or can we call it a miracle?

52 children over a span of 110 to 900 years PER GENERATION with multiple partners is not an unreasonable number. Tell me you could not do this if given a nearly 1000 years with no internet, girly mags or any "other outlets" for yourself. Infact if you truly think about it That number maybe low.
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#17
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Drich Wrote:52 children over a span of 110 to 900 years PER GENERATION with multiple partners is not an unreasonable number. Tell me you could not do this if given a nearly 1000 years with no internet, girly mags or any "other outlets" for yourself. Infact if you truly think about it That number maybe low.
I'm not sure if I've misunderstood completely, but are you suggesting a person's life span could be up to 900 years? Why did my great grandma die at 102? Not even within the range you've given.
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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#18
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(March 19, 2012 at 11:38 pm)Drich Wrote: 52 children over a span of 110 to 900 years PER GENERATION with multiple partners is not an unreasonable number. Tell me you could not do this if given a nearly 1000 years with no internet, girly mags or any "other outlets" for yourself. Infact if you truly think about it That number maybe low.

I guess you keep missing the fact that the Bible says it's impossible without a miracle from our Lord to have a child after the age of 70 or so. I don't know how it's not sinking in, given that I've twice cited the verses in Genesis in question.

Also, your figure of living 900 years was only for the generations prior to the flood. After the flood, people only lived to be around 180 years.

Prior to the flood:

Seth: 912 Years (Gen 5:8)
Enos: 905 Years (Gen 5:11)
Cainan: 910 Years (Gen 5:14)
Mahalaleel: 895 Years (Gen 5:17)
Jered: 962 Years (Gen 5:20)
Methuselah: 969 Years (Gen 5:27)
Lemech: 777 Years (5:31)
Noah: 950 Years (9:29)

After the flood:

Abraham: 175 Years (Gen 25:7)
Ishmael: 137 Years (Gen 25:17)
Isaac: 180 Years (Gen 35:28)
Jacob: 147 Years (Gen 47:28)

So after the flood, people only lived a short 150-180 years. Still, fertility was limited such that a 90 year old woman giving birth was laughable:

Quote:Gen 18:13 And the LORD said unto Abraham, Wherefore did Sarah laugh, saying, Shall I of a surety bear a child, which am old?

So living to be 180 doesn't mean anything in terms of population growth if fertility is still limited. Hence, the Jewish population explosion was a miracle (as Sarah's child that she bore at such an old age was a miracle).
"You don't need facts when you got Jesus." -Pastor Deacon Fred, Landover Baptist Church

™: True Christian is a Trademark of the Landover Baptist Church. I have no affiliation with this fine group of True Christians ™ because I can't afford their tithing requirements but would like to be. Maybe someday the Lord will bless me with enough riches that I am able to. 

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#19
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Thank you for this incredible example of what God can do !! Praise the Lord!
"If Christianity is untrue, then no honest man will want to believe it, however helpful it might be; if it is true, every honest man will want to believe it, even if it gives him no help at all."
C. S. Lewis - Essay, Man or Rabbit.
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#20
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How do people live that long?!?! Why is that biologically IMPOSSIBLE today????
"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it" ~ Aristotle
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