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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm
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(March 22, 2012 at 8:01 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 7:06 pm)Scarlet Pimpernel Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 5:41 pm)kılıç_mehmet Wrote: Quote:If Muslims expect that westerners respect their Muslim customs and laws when they visit their Muslim countries why don't these same Muslims extend that same courtesy to westerners when they, those Muslims, go to LIVE in those western countries? As they do in their millions.
Of course, one has to respect the customs of the place one lives in.
I did that, and had minimal problems with the Germans I lived amongst. You were not the only Muslim living in the west. Thousands of other Muslims do not respect the customs of the place they live in! Obviously they don't, but I haven't really seen someone who went against it so hard, as to draw attention to themselves.
I have. Hundreds of times. Including Muslim mullahs and elders in European countries making it a point on prime time TV news to refuse to shake hands with (female) government ministers who come to them (not the other way around) to address their plight!
I'd say that is grossly rude and insulting!
(March 22, 2012 at 8:13 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 8:06 pm)Scarlet Pimpernel Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 7:50 pm)Napoleon Wrote: I'm pretty sure not shaking hands with someone isn't illegal.
It is discrimination on the basis of sex as stipulated in most western constitutions, and therefore illegal.
It has never yet been enforced in a court of law, though (bending over backwards with 'political correctness'), but that doesn't make it any less illegal.
Are you serious? Nobody can force anyone to shake anyone else's hand. It's not illegal if you don't want to shake someone's hand, you're talking total bollocks.
Check your constitution.
Oh no, wait, you haven't got a constitution! 
Which of course explains why your compatriots are not protected by it.
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 8:23 pm
(March 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm)Scarlet Pimpernel Wrote: Check your constitution.
Oh no, wait, you haven't got a constitution!
And?
Tell me where it says you have to shake someone's hand.
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 8:27 pm
Certainly not in your constitution. 
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 8:30 pm
Still avoiding the question. Tell me where in your constitution then, it says you must shake someone's hand. You're arguing on the grounds of sexist discrimination yes? As far as I'm concerned that's not the issue when it comes to the law, because shaking someone's hand when attending a job interview, or greeting someone ISN'T a legal requirement. It's simply a matter of courtesy.
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 8:32 pm
(March 22, 2012 at 8:23 pm)Napoleon Wrote: (March 22, 2012 at 8:15 pm)Scarlet Pimpernel Wrote: Check your constitution.
Oh no, wait, you haven't got a constitution!
And?
Tell me where it says you have to shake someone's hand.
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 8:34 pm
(March 22, 2012 at 8:32 pm)Phil Wrote: Paragraph i + 3
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 22, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Quote:I have. Hundreds of times. Including Muslim mullahs and elders in European countries making it a point on prime time TV news to refuse to shake hands with (female) government ministers who come to them (not the other way around) to address their plight!
I'd say that is grossly rude and insulting!
And? Just because some mollah refuses to shake your hand, means that it's illegal?
Well, who'd really care if some old mollah would shake my hand?
Besides, I do not leave an outstretched hand in the air, but it's just the case that I do not stretch my hand to females I do not know, or that I know that they have a bf.
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 23, 2012 at 2:35 am
I have never encountered a single person in my life that wouldn't shake my hand. Good to know all the people I've met are less retarded than some of the people I haven't met.
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 23, 2012 at 3:03 am
(March 23, 2012 at 2:35 am)aleialoura Wrote: I have never encountered a single person in my life that wouldn't shake my hand.
So since there are almost half a billion of them out there could it be that maybe you don't get out there too much?
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RE: How to avoid shaking hands
March 23, 2012 at 4:11 am
(March 23, 2012 at 3:03 am)Scarlet Pimpernel Wrote: (March 23, 2012 at 2:35 am)aleialoura Wrote: I have never encountered a single person in my life that wouldn't shake my hand.
So since there are almost half a billion of them out there could it be that maybe you don't get out there too much?
I meet new people and shake hands with them almost every day. Could it be that it's fucking bat shit crazy to be so weird about shaking hands? Possibly?
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