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Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 11:55 am
Ah, Christians... God love 'em.
It would appear that their long-held weirdness about sex and gays (and their disgust at recent talk of same sex marriage) may not be quite as long-held as they think.
When Same-Sex Marriage Was a Christian Rite
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 12:53 pm
Oh, they'll deny it, whether it is true or not.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 2:49 pm
all any of you has to do is provide Book Chapter and verse that allows for same sex mariage and Christianity as a whole will forced to accept this doctrine. real simple. Anything and everything else is just pie in the sky.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm
You have all yet to produce chapter and verse that states homosexuality is a sin. You're the ones making the claim. Produce the evidence. Oh, I forgot, only certain translations and interpretations say homosexuality is a sin, typically those followed by people who already hate homosexuality.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
All you have to do is provide chapter and verse that allows for the operation of a motor vehicle and christianity as a whole will be forced to accept this doctrine.
(Scripture is silent on the issue. Search the forums for your verses before you decide to paste them up again. They've all been handled before. It is as silent on the issue of homosexuality-as-sin as it is on the issue of motor vehicles. I can only assume god does not give a shit whether or not you drive a car, or give a handie to the guy driving the car. The fag hating god you've imagined is orders of magnitude lesser than the god of scripture in at least this regard.)
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm
(May 10, 2012 at 2:49 pm)Drich Wrote: all any of you has to do is provide Book Chapter and verse that allows for same sex mariage and Christianity as a whole will forced to accept this doctrine. real simple. Anything and everything else is just pie in the sky.
You have a problem with a man putting a dick in his ass? Just wondering.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 2:57 pm
Note that there's quite a difference between legal (secular) marriage and the Christian concept of marriage.
Nobody (as far as I know) is advocating that any religious institution perform ceremonies for marriages that are contrary to their doctrines. Rather, it is about legal recognition of such marriages.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 2:58 pm
Of course, which is why his god has a problem with it. Drich's god is a front.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 3:13 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2012 at 3:15 pm by Drich.)
(May 10, 2012 at 2:51 pm)Shell B Wrote: You have all yet to produce chapter and verse that states homosexuality is a sin. You're the ones making the claim. Produce the evidence. Oh, I forgot, only certain translations and interpretations say homosexuality is a sin, typically those followed by people who already hate homosexuality.
All sex outside the confines of the covenant of marriage is a sin.(Acts 15:20; 1 Corinthians 5:1; 6:13, 18; 10:8; 2 Corinthians 12:21; Galatians 5:19; Ephesians 5:3; Colossians 3:5; 1 Thessalonians 4:3; Jude 7). The Bible promotes complete abstinence before marriage. Sex between a husband and his wife is the only form of sexual relations of which God approves (Hebrews 13:4).
There isn't a context in which same sex marriages are permitted in the bible. If there isn't such a context then that make homosexual activity (Even the thought of it) a sin even if you choose to ignore or explain away all of the passages that directly tell you it is indeed a sin.
Silencing the bible on homosexuality is not the same as saying it was encouraged. The best any of you can hope to do is try and silence the bible, even so you still can not hope to biblically justify this sin. A sexual sin just like anyother sexual sin. One that need to find repentance and forgiveness. pretending it is not a sin robs the sinner of any hope of finding forgiveness for said sin. If you want to be gay then do so knowing you are sinning against God. Otherwise if you justify it then you will not ever see a need to repent of it.
(May 10, 2012 at 2:52 pm)Rhythm Wrote: All you have to do is provide chapter and verse that allows for the operation of a motor vehicle and christianity as a whole will be forced to accept this doctrine.
(Scripture is silent on the issue. Search the forums for your verses before you decide to paste them up again. They've all been handled before. It is as silent on the issue of homosexuality-as-sin as it is on the issue of motor vehicles. I can only assume god does not give a shit whether or not you drive a car, or give a handie to the guy driving the car. The fag hating god you've imagined is orders of magnitude lesser than the god of scripture in at least this regard.) Only if you want to segergate homosexuals from all other Sexual sinners. Otherwise if you look at them as any other sexual sinner then they fall into the same exact catagory as everyone else.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 3:18 pm
(This post was last modified: May 10, 2012 at 3:19 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
Sure, you could look at them any way you please. Nevertheless, scripture is silent. Personally, I prefer the god of the bible to your god in this instance.
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