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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 10, 2012 at 8:30 pm
(May 10, 2012 at 12:53 pm)Shell B Wrote: Oh, they'll deny it, whether it is true or not.
Absolutely;the explanation will probably be that the marriage was spiritual,like a nun being the bride of Christ.That is a reasonable explanation too,in my opinion.
However, I have never heard this claim before,so will need some supporting evidence from other scholars to come to an informed opinion.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 12:27 am
(May 10, 2012 at 8:09 pm)Drich Wrote: In short Identifying homosexuality as a sin only has one purpose from a biblical stand point, and that is to have the sinner repent (turn from his sin) and seek attonement through the sacrifice Christ offered... Just like anyother sin.
That doesn't answer the question. Why campaign for laws against homosexuality, but not against premarital sex and adultery?
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 12:37 am
(May 11, 2012 at 12:27 am)genkaus Wrote: (May 10, 2012 at 8:09 pm)Drich Wrote: In short Identifying homosexuality as a sin only has one purpose from a biblical stand point, and that is to have the sinner repent (turn from his sin) and seek attonement through the sacrifice Christ offered... Just like anyother sin.
That doesn't answer the question. Why campaign for laws against homosexuality, but not against premarital sex and adultery?
Not to mention blasphemy, coveting, idolatry, and any number of other sins mentioned in scripture but (typically) absent from civil law (excepting the odd unenforced holdover from earlier times).
What's so special about homosexuality?
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 12:57 am
(This post was last modified: May 11, 2012 at 12:57 am by The Grand Nudger.)
The verse you've hung your hat on has nothing to say about teh gayz. Scripture is silent. Accept it and move on.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 5:02 am
The OP is an amusing assertion, but highly unlikely to be verified.
Thank you Drich for educating me on the bible's failings here - I always thought that the christians must have had a point(according to their book), but it appears they don't. At all.
What I've summarised from your posts is that according to the bible all sex or sexual thought, gay or straight, outside of marriage, is equally sinful.
If you follow your own logic and for just a moment put aside your own feelings on gay people, then you must see that the people who are against gay marriage and intolerant of gay people in general and who cite the bible as the reason, are applying double standards and singling out this facet of the populace unfairly.
If you say so raging rev... but according to Drich, this guy would also be equally justified and biblically correct holding a sign with 'god hates single mothers', or 'god hates geeks in their mid thirties who are still virgins and masterbate incessantly'
You have singlehandedly undone the Christian intolerant stance on homosexuals in a few short sentences
Thanks for that
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 6:32 am
(May 11, 2012 at 5:02 am)Chuff Wrote: The OP is an amusing assertion, but highly unlikely to be verified.
Thank you Drich for educating me on the bible's failings here - I always thought that the christians must have had a point(according to their book), but it appears they don't. At all.
What I've summarised from your posts is that according to the bible all sex or sexual thought, gay or straight, outside of marriage, is equally sinful.
If you follow your own logic and for just a moment put aside your own feelings on gay people, then you must see that the people who are against gay marriage and intolerant of gay people in general and who cite the bible as the reason, are applying double standards and singling out this facet of the populace unfairly.
If you say so raging rev... but according to Drich, this guy would also be equally justified and biblically correct holding a sign with 'god hates single mothers', or 'god hates geeks in their mid thirties who are still virgins and masterbate incessantly'
You have singlehandedly undone the Christian intolerant stance on homosexuals in a few short sentences
Thanks for that
I would say God hates sin. Or maybe go so far as to say God hates the unrepentant sinner, (which if Homosexuality is justified and it's sin status is taken away, it will doom all homosexuals to be unrepentant sinners) but as far as segregating one sin from another.. Their are only three that Christ put out above the rest. Gossip, Those who are quick to shed blood, and the worst and only unforgivable sin Blaspheme of the Holy Spirit.
Rev. "God hates fags" is an example of someone who is quick to shed blood, and an unrepentant sinner.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 6:49 am
Hi Drich
Do you believe that people are born gay, or that they choose to be gay and could reject it if they wanted to ?
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 6:55 am
(May 11, 2012 at 6:49 am)Chuff Wrote: Hi Drich
Do you believe that people are born gay, or that they choose to be gay and could reject it if they wanted to ?
The bible tells us people are born unto sin. So whatever that sin may be we must identify it repent of it and seek attonement for it. Homosexuals do not get a special pass. Their sin is like anyother.
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 6:59 am
What is your sin then, Drich?
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RE: Good reading for Christian Homophobes
May 11, 2012 at 7:24 am
My sins are many and too great to number. I think it would be easier to list the ones I am not guilty of. Blaspheme of the holy Spirit, and... that's about it. In one form or another I have violated the rest.
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