RCC says making a woman a priest is as sinful as abusing a child.

[Epimethean]

She's a past mistress of that game by all accounts.

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@Ziploc, you said the Vatican was making light of child abuse, in spite of giving it the maximum penalty. Correct?

Ah, yes, of course, cop out du jour. Since all you have to cling to is heresay (faith) and myth, I should think you would be more sympathetic to the accusations of victims.

What? This isn't even an accusation from a victim, its a baseless accusation from a politician which you tried to post as proof.

Your first link is about the Pope's brother being aware of corporal punishment back in the day, it also briefly makes a butchered quote from Crimen sollicitationis which was in reference to ecclesiastical trials only, which do not preclude criminal trials.

The second of your links is just about a Bishop being under suspicion, not the Vatican.

There is no cop outs here, this is just you posting a handful of poorly researched articles and me just stating a few pretty simple facts. Repeating a lie a lot of times doesn't make it the truth.

Repeating a lie every post seems to work for you.

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The crisis also has pit the moral legacies of two popes against each other: the towering and modernizing John Paul II, who nonetheless did little about sexual abuse; and his successor, Benedict XVI, who in recent years, at least, has taken the issue of pedophile priests more seriously.

But a wave of recent disclosures in Germany, Ireland, the Netherlands and the United States have led to increasing scrutiny of Benedict and his actions while a bishop in Germany and as a cardinal who later headed the Vatican’s bureaucracy.

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/...index.html

http://whoknowswho.channel4.com/people/J..._children_

And a bit more on the Vatican's Irish cop-out.

http://www.irishcentral.com/story/news/p...51443.html

http://www.channel4.com/news/vatican-den...e-cover-up

[Ziploc Surprise]

"She's a past mistress of that game by all accounts"

True that EP.

@ Aiza. You still have a reading comprehension problem. I will not play this game with you. The longer you insist on playing it the more you discredit yourself. If you want to stop looking like a weasel, an ass, or a dumbass, read my posts and address the issues. The ones I brought up not the ones you want to believe I brought up. It's all in writing, nothing is hidden, go back and read.

[Thor]

Um, no, local parishes don't fall under the responsibility of the Vatican

Baloney. The RCC has a hierarchy, does it not? The local parish falls under the archdiocese, which reports up the chain. The Vatican is at the top of that chain.

--and they only fall under their authority in the sense of the responsibilities of Faith+Morals.

Authority comes with responsibility. Can't have one without the other.

I am under the authority of the Vatican and the president as well, in the sense that they both can influence laws which I follow.

The difference here is that you are not compelled to follow the dictates of the Vatican.

In terms of the minutiae of running a local parish, there is no way that the Vatican could run all the parishes in the world.

No kidding! Just like the President could not possibly run all the agencies of the US government. This is why people are appointed at various levels to handle day to day chores. But the President is ultimately responsible for those agencies.

[orogenicman]

*sarcasm on* I'm glad to see the RCC has it's priorities straight. *sarcasm off, now for a painful groan. Ugh!*

Quote: "Making a woman a priest is as sinful as abusing a child, the Roman Catholic Church declared yesterday.
New religious rules published by the Vatican set both sins at the same level of gravity and recommended the same punishment for guilty priests."

Also it sounds like the measures (mentioned in the article) they are taking to curb child abuse is equivalent to pissing on a fire. A lot of fancy words perhaps but no real substance. What do all of you think?


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z1yoQ9DzTL


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...z1ym7ZNwR0

The fact that something is a 'sin' has never stopped Catholics or their priests from doing whatever they wanted to do. Am I being too obvious, or what?