Posts: 8
Threads: 3
Joined: November 1, 2012
Reputation:
0
WHAT About The Fact That The U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding Citizens
December 3, 2012 at 12:40 pm
(This post was last modified: December 3, 2012 at 1:02 pm by NoMoreExcuses.)
In The Entire World?
I live near the world's largest Amish community in Ohio, and have done much research on them,and there is a no more moral/ law-abiding group of people in existence than these UBER-Religious people!
No one can lay blame for atrocities like the Inqusition,or Witch burnings,or the Holocaust, or any wars,on them, either!
Nor are our jails housing 'criminal' members from their communities!
How do atheists account for that fact?
Posts: 1928
Threads: 14
Joined: July 9, 2012
Reputation:
32
RE: About The Fact That The U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding Citizens
December 3, 2012 at 12:50 pm
My answer is, If you live in a cage it is hard to step out of that cage.
PS the heading is too verbose.
Posts: 5170
Threads: 364
Joined: September 25, 2012
Reputation:
61
RE:WHATbout The Fact That The U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding Citizens
December 3, 2012 at 12:52 pm
1: I as an atheist never claimed that being religious will always lead to inmoral actions.
2: Therefor Strawman!
3: Therefor I dont have to account for anything.
Posts: 19644
Threads: 177
Joined: July 31, 2012
Reputation:
92
RE: WHAT About The Fact That The U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding
December 3, 2012 at 1:13 pm
How do theists account for that?
Shouldn't Orthodox christians be the paradigm of human perfection? Why did they let these Amish take that prize?
Posts: 314
Threads: 3
Joined: November 9, 2012
Reputation:
10
RE: WHAT About The Fact ......
December 3, 2012 at 1:14 pm
(December 3, 2012 at 12:40 pm)NoMoreExcuses Wrote: In The Entire World?
I live near the world's largest Amish community in Ohio, and have done much research on them,and there is a no more moral/ law-abiding group of people in existence than these UBER-Religious people!
How do atheists account for that fact?
Fear of immorality is something different than being moral, religion does not create morality, that's an absurd notion.
Those nutcases you speak so highly of were kicked out of Switzerland and mostly tried to go to Germany and Holland, but guess what, we didn't want them either so i'm very glad they moved on to the land where anything is possible .. ( or so it seems ) anyway good luck with them and if you ever speak to one tell him/her to pleaaaaase stay away ...
"Jesus is like an unpaid babysitter "
R. Gervais
Posts: 2844
Threads: 169
Joined: August 24, 2012
Reputation:
46
WHAT About The Fact That The U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding Citizens
December 3, 2012 at 1:18 pm
(December 3, 2012 at 12:40 pm)NoMoreExcuses Wrote: In The Entire World?
I live near the world's largest Amish community in Ohio, and have done much research on them,and there is a no more moral/ law-abiding group of people in existence than these UBER-Religious people!
No one can lay blame for atrocities like the Inqusition,or Witch burnings,or the Holocaust, or any wars,on them, either!
Nor are our jails housing 'criminal' members from their communities!
How do atheists account for that fact?
Uber religious people are moral? I've heard otherwise. The uber religious communities just seem to do a better job of keeping it a secret. I've heard that there's a lot of abuse that goes on behind closed doors within those communities. The FLDS church has a history of some pretty atrocious stuff, but in the areas where they're worth worrying about, they have so much local political power, nobody can do anything to them.
I live on facebook. Come see me there. http://www.facebook.com/tara.rizzatto
"If you cling to something as the absolute truth and you are caught in it, when the truth comes in person to knock on your door you will refuse to let it in." ~ Siddhartha Gautama
Posts: 147
Threads: 2
Joined: November 21, 2012
Reputation:
3
RE: WHAT About The Fact That U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding Citizens
December 3, 2012 at 1:29 pm
Moral according to who? And please supply evidence of this claim of them being the most law abiding people in existence
Posts: 2203
Threads: 44
Joined: July 28, 2012
Reputation:
38
WHAT About The Fact That The U-Religious Amish/Mennonite Communities Are The More Moral/Law-Abiding Citizens
December 3, 2012 at 1:39 pm
The Amish also don't believe in education, at least beyond a 5th or 6th grade level, ascribe to uber-traditional gender roles, won't use zippers because you can whip your dick out too fast (it's sinful to be hasty about such things), and a multitude of other such nonsense. Not exactly the pinnacle of culture.
What about the beard shaving incidents about a year or so ago? Where one group of Amish attacked another, holding the men down and shaving off their beards (an act of humiliation, as all men are supposed to have facial hair). They were arrested for it. If I remember correctly, the offending Amish group, was defended by those they disgraced by shaving. Also, the Amish are mistrustful of police and are likely to underreport crimes.
Posts: 12231
Threads: 324
Joined: April 14, 2011
Reputation:
140
oiujoij
December 3, 2012 at 2:06 pm
(December 3, 2012 at 12:40 pm)NoMoreExcuses Wrote: How do atheists account for that fact?
How do I account for what?
That some religious people are nicer than others?
Shock fucking horror, you been living in a cave?
Posts: 686
Threads: 3
Joined: December 13, 2010
Reputation:
9
RE: WHAT About The Fact
December 3, 2012 at 2:18 pm
I live near the world's largest Amish community in Ohio, and have done much research on them,and there is a no more moral/ law-abiding group of people in existence than these UBER-Religious people!
No one can lay blame for atrocities like the Inqusition,or Witch burnings,or the Holocaust, or any wars,on them, either!
Nor are our jails housing 'criminal' members from their communities!
How do atheists account for that fact?
What fact?
YOU have not connected their law abiding to their religion.
The fact is - it is MORE likely that those results are because of the CLOSED COMMUNITY they have constructed around themselves.
|
