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RE: Britain leaving the EU
January 31, 2013 at 8:10 pm
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(January 31, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: To let in all those millions, involves giving away our nation. Already feels like that really. There is no 'British pride' left. Great Britain has finally fallen to a foreign power. Churchill must be spinning in his grave. Great nations don't typically fall from without but from within. Betrayal/corruption.
I see we've hit full BNP rhetoric here.
Nothing to see folks, move along, move along.
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 1:05 am
(January 31, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: (January 31, 2013 at 2:56 pm)fr0d0 Wrote: The capitalists are rubbing their hands together at all the extra profit to be made from the cheaper labour. They give not a stuff about UK citizens. They're in charge here.
True, corruption is always playing a huge role. To let in all those millions, involves giving away our nation. Already feels like that really. There is no 'British pride' left. Great Britain has finally fallen to a foreign power. Churchill must be spinning in his grave. Great nations don't typically fall from without but from within. Betrayal/corruption.
Wasn't Churchill that promoted the idea of the European Union being more than a economic union?
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 3:21 am
(January 31, 2013 at 4:20 pm)Ace Otana Wrote: The more things change, the more they stay the same.
If things are actually changing, then this is grossly incorrect 
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 5:51 am
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(February 1, 2013 at 1:05 am)Ashendant Wrote: Wasn't Churchill that promoted the idea of the European Union being more than a economic union?
I don't think he meant for millions of foreigners to move in take jobs, houses and claim unemployment benefits like no tomorrow.
But hey, if everyone thinks it's a good idea, let's see what happens.
Oh and I'm not on BNP's side for your information.
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 8:22 am
(February 1, 2013 at 5:51 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (February 1, 2013 at 1:05 am)Ashendant Wrote: Wasn't Churchill that promoted the idea of the European Union being more than a economic union?
I don't think he meant for millions of foreigners to move in take jobs, houses and claim unemployment benefits like no tomorrow.
But hey, if everyone thinks it's a good idea, let's see what happens.
Oh and I'm not on BNP's side for your information.
Yeah, he was for a United States of Europe without Britain in it, but let's be realistic here.
You know the British can do the same... this is not a one-way deal. Also the British are in control of their borders since they aren't part of the Schengen zone.
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 8:36 am
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(February 1, 2013 at 8:22 am)Ashendant Wrote: You know the British can do the same... this is not a one-way deal. Also the British are in control of their borders since they aren't part of the Schengen zone.
Britain is in control of her borders? I thought Brussels was.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...et-us.html
Nearly two-thirds of Britons want out. - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/3630...l-spending
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 9:16 am
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(February 1, 2013 at 8:36 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (February 1, 2013 at 8:22 am)Ashendant Wrote: You know the British can do the same... this is not a one-way deal. Also the British are in control of their borders since they aren't part of the Schengen zone.
Britain is in control of her borders? I thought Brussels was.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...et-us.html
Nearly two-thirds of Britons want out. - http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/3630...l-spending ![[Image: 300px-Schengen_Area.svg.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=upload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fcommons%2Fthumb%2F6%2F63%2FSchengen_Area.svg%2F300px-Schengen_Area.svg.png)
This is the Schengen Area. The Schengen area is when the EU has no borders between themselves. Blue are its members.
Britain controls it's borders. If you want to talk about migrant workers, ok! But don't spout lies about not controlling the borders.
I've read the numbers only 20 to 30 % actually mean that while the rest is a fruit of the current crisis, besides sometimes politicians know what it's best for the country than its people, and being in the EU is one of those cases.
ALSO I cannot those articles seriously just by looking at the links, SOOOOO biased.
The REAL migrant scandal - Caps lock for emphasis on how REAL this is.
Politicians pretend control borders - Yep those guys are doing nothing at all!!1!1
Truth Brussel won't let us - Look at the scary EU hiding all the important shit from us
Brussels in plot to control ALL national spending - How insidious! vegetables are plotting to control the british national spending. Not just part of it but, with caps lock for emphasis, ALL OF IT.
Yep, not a lick of serious here.
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 9:25 am
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(February 1, 2013 at 9:16 am)Ashendant Wrote: Yep, not a lick of serious here.
Fine, that's your opinion. Vote to stay then, and I'll vote to leave.
I'm going to have to bring this to an end because it's becoming too touchy, also dailymail isn't the only ones, go on google and type in UK to leave EU polls, or something along those lines.
I don't mind debating with people on many topics, it's who I debate with. I hate arguing with touchy people, just ruins the fun of discussion to be honest.
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 9:38 am
Britain will do what it feels it needs to. No big deal.
Just imagine IF there was an Asian Union here! 
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RE: Britain leaving the EU
February 1, 2013 at 10:17 am
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(February 1, 2013 at 9:25 am)Ace Otana Wrote: (February 1, 2013 at 9:16 am)Ashendant Wrote: Yep, not a lick of serious here.
Fine, that's your opinion. Vote to stay then, and I'll vote to leave.
I'm going to have to bring this to an end because it's becoming too touchy, also dailymail isn't the only ones, go on google and type in UK to leave EU polls, or something along those lines.
I know the polls and what these polls say, at least when you post articles try to do to those that at least don't look outright biased. http://www.eubusiness.com/news-eu/politics-britain.lzg/
Here is a good example of poll analysis.
I'm not British, I'm Portuguese. I want your country to stay, but if you're going to be angry and contrarian about it and block all progress to a political union, because "that's now what we're told"(only the deaf could make this claim) you might as well leave.
(February 1, 2013 at 9:38 am)KichigaiNeko Wrote: Just imagine IF there was an Asian Union here!
There is the ASEAN and the SAARC, but they aren't as united as the EU, and a bunch of others trying to follow the EU example for the economic boons.
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