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Religion and LGBT people
RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 16, 2013 at 2:00 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: I chose my words specifically in my last post, don't put words in my mouth.

You said it's up to God to judge them or something, if God does exist then unless he's completely insane he won't care about who sticks what in where, as long as its consensual. If you do want to revere a God who would care about this then I think you're a sandwich short. Even if this kind of God did exist, just the fact that something exists and is powerful isn't justification revere it it has to be worthy of praise. If there was a God and he judged people based on trivalities such as this then he would be waste of time. You would be worshipping Satan if he was the most powerful being around. You wouldn't care if he was moral or good or whatever you would just go along with him for what you can get basically.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 16, 2013 at 7:12 am)Gabriel Syme Wrote: I notice the usual lack of evidence to support your argument and the usual ignoring of the evidence I present to you.

You are an immature idiot, Violet Lilly Blossom, and I will henceforth cease wasting my time engaging with you.

I notice the usual absence of scientific studies in a scientific matter that others have likely provided evidence of already. Yes, I am absolutely going to ignore rigged studies, paid propaganda, and political/marketing studies (oft referred to as 'biased' studies).

You are a poor insulter, Mister Sir Gabriel Syme, and I will henceforth continue to mock your 'arguments' openly... as they are not worth the time of responding seriously. How amusing that you suggest I go out of my way to ruin a joke... specifically your 'data' Sleepy

Quote:Your puerile excuse for an intellect is clearly only suited to living within your own fantasy world - it is not suited to rational, adult discussion, where we deal with facts and the truth.

With kind regards
GS

Your callow arguments display a great need for experience in your life, perhaps you should spend less time in your imagination and the internet, and more time in the world outside. Your mental health isn't suited for shutting yourself in your mother's basement, struggling with both philosophy and science, where you flounder on both counts.

Thank you for your time, dearie...
Lillyomnibus
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 16, 2013 at 1:49 pm)TheLameMayWalk Wrote: As a religious man, I am against homosexuality. BUT I am not against gay marriage.

Church and state are seperate in the United States. If homosexuals want to be married, that is all legislation. But for homosexuals to engage in sexual acts with one another and live like a man or a woman, that is God's territory. And it is up to them if they want to abide to God's wishes or not. But I have many friends who are homosexual, and they get me, and I get them. They're not religious people. what happens to them will all be up to Him in the end, I try to reserve my judgment towards them to myself and myself only.

So why did god make them gay in the first place if it is a sin?
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 17, 2013 at 8:08 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So why did god make them gay in the first place if it is a sin?

It could be that it's Satan who is responsible for gayness and his power must be overcome or something like that.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 16, 2013 at 5:24 pm)Zone Wrote: You said it's up to God to judge them or something, if God does exist then unless he's completely insane he won't care about who sticks what in where, as long as its consensual. If you do want to revere a God who would care about this then I think you're a sandwich short. Even if this kind of God did exist, just the fact that something exists and is powerful isn't justification revere it it has to be worthy of praise. If there was a God and he judged people based on trivalities such as this then he would be waste of time. You would be worshipping Satan if he was the most powerful being around. You wouldn't care if he was moral or good or whatever you would just go along with him for what you can get basically.
You're playing both sides of the field. You think that what people want to stick and where is a vital aspect of their identity, yet you call it a triviality when that suits your purposes.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 17, 2013 at 11:51 am)Zone Wrote: It could be that it's Satan who is responsible for gayness and his power must be overcome or something like that.

It could be that God's claim to be almighty is almighty suspect if one of his lowly creations can so thoroughly subvert his intentions in so many ways.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 18, 2013 at 8:18 am)Ryantology Wrote:
(February 17, 2013 at 11:51 am)Zone Wrote: It could be that it's Satan who is responsible for gayness and his power must be overcome or something like that.

It could be that God's claim to be almighty is almighty suspect if one of his lowly creations can so thoroughly subvert his intentions in so many ways.

Satan was able to fuck up gods plan almost from the beginning with a few words.

Not very good at planning, this god character.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 18, 2013 at 8:11 am)John V Wrote: You're playing both sides of the field. You think that what people want to stick and where is a vital aspect of their identity

It doesn't really bother who sticks what in whos what as long as it's not rape or child abuse or whatever, it's neither my business nor Gods.

(February 18, 2013 at 8:11 am)John V Wrote: yet you call it a triviality when that suits your purposes.

They're not ruining my day, they're ruining your day, they're not bothering God if he exists and is sane. So I don't think they to be in anyway targeted or discriminated against in any way.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 18, 2013 at 11:43 am)Zone Wrote: It doesn't really bother who sticks what in whos what as long as it's not rape or child abuse or whatever, it's neither my business nor Gods.
Why isn't it god's business? i would think the business of the creator of everything would be whatever he wants it to be.
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RE: Religion and LGBT people
(February 18, 2013 at 4:11 pm)John V Wrote: Why isn't it god's business? i would think the business of the creator of everything would be whatever he wants it to be.

If he exists and is concerned about human adult consenting sexual orientation then I wouldn't see any good reason to worship him because that's really freaking strange. I'll head over to Satans rebel encampment in hell seeing that's where all the people you would actually want to spend eternity with will be in this scenario.
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