How to shut up people who are against abortion

[bennyboy]

Wow, 23 pages to say, "Fuck off asshole, mind your own business."

[smax]

I agree, your arguments are mindless...
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Translation = you've got nothing.

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So, it's not a human (yet) and it's actually the body of the mother?

Assuming that you're speaking of a human fetus, it appears that you have created a paradox, no?

Stop being such a cry baby.

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Or are you still only moaning and bitching arround over how bad abortion and eating shellfish is?

He's too busy crying about "cry babies" to be bothered to actually think his argument through.

You get what you get.

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As long as you deny basic biology, what makes you think you're ready for advanced biology?

Your shit is getting really fucking boring now. Fuck off and read a book on this "Basic biology" you think you know so much about. Do us all a favour.

Don't hold your breath.

You are talking to an individual that completely ignored the point of this thread in the first place.

With that starting, how meaningful can the dialogue possibly get?

[Tiberius]

but why doesn't the father have a say in the matter if he helped create it?

Because, Divi Tiberio, you are way too eager to ignore how the little fucker got in there in the first place.

No I'm not. I thought I'd been clear that I don't object to abortions for rape victims. When I ask why the father doesn't have a say, I mean in the sense that him and the women had consensual sex, knowing pregnancy was a possibility. It's as much his child as it is hers, so why in those situations can't the father have a say?

Most of the time the"father" has absconded and is not reachable to be engaged in the abortion decision Tiberius

That doesn't mean you just get to ignore all the other times where the father is present. That's a terrible argument and you know it. The father doesn't get a say because "most of the time" fathers abscond and aren't reachable?!? Seriously?

[ideologue08]

No I'm not. I thought I'd been clear that I don't object to abortions for rape victims. When I ask why the father doesn't have a say, I mean in the sense that him and the women had consensual sex, knowing pregnancy was a possibility. It's as much his child as it is hers, so why in those situations can't the father have a say?

Now this is one thing I am passionately opposed to when it comes to abortion. How can the woman have the only say in whether the foetus lives or is destroyed? Imagine how sadistic of a situation it would be if the father actually wanted to keep the baby but the mother flushes it down the toilet? Only God knows what I would to such a woman if I was with her, she'd probably follow the foetus down the toilet.

[NoraBrimstone]

No I'm not. I thought I'd been clear that I don't object to abortions for rape victims. When I ask why the father doesn't have a say, I mean in the sense that him and the women had consensual sex, knowing pregnancy was a possibility. It's as much his child as it is hers, so why in those situations can't the father have a say?

Firstly, while it is living in a woman's body, using her oxygen and nutrients, it's solely her property because it is part of her body. Secondly, a man is not a "father" until a child is actually born. If the sperm donor wants it so badly he can take it and try to grow it up his fucking arse for all I care.

[CleanShavenJesus]

Catfish literally denies facts. It's strange. He did it in the last abortion topic. Just move on.

[catfish]

Catfish literally denies facts. It's strange. He did it in the last abortion topic. Just move on.

LOL, and you and some others are complete idiots (props for following through).
A human fetus is an individual human lifeform, fucking PERIOD!
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[smax]

Catfish literally denies facts. It's strange. He did it in the last abortion topic. Just move on.

LOL, and you and some others are complete idiots (props for following through).
A human fetus is an individual human lifeform, fucking PERIOD!
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Here's some more material for you and the rest of the Christians to ignore:

2 Samuel 12

13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the Lord, the son born to you will die.”

15 After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackclothb on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.

18 On the seventh day the child died. David’s attendants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, “While the child was still living, he wouldn’t listen to us when we spoke to him. How can we now tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate.”

19David noticed that his attendants were whispering among themselves, and he realized the child was dead. “Is the child dead?” he asked.

“Yes,” they replied, “he is dead.”

You know what, the new slogan for Christianity should simply be:

Just put the Bible on ignore, it will only get in the way of your Christianity.

[catfish]

LOL, and you and some others are complete idiots (props for following through).
A human fetus is an individual human lifeform, fucking PERIOD!
.

Here's some more material for you and the rest of the Christians to ignore:

2 Samuel 12

13 Then David said to Nathan, “I have sinned against the Lord.”

Nathan replied, “The Lord has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. 14 But because by doing this you have shown utter contempt for the Lord, the son born to you will die.”

15 After Nathan had gone home, the Lord struck the child that Uriah’s wife had borne to David, and he became ill. 16 David pleaded with God for the child. He fasted and spent the nights lying in sackclothb on the ground. 17 The elders of his household stood beside him to get him up from the ground, but he refused, and he would not eat any food with them.

18 On the seventh day the child died. David’s attendants were afraid to tell him that the child was dead, for they thought, “While the child was still living, he wouldn’t listen to us when we spoke to him. How can we now tell him the child is dead? He may do something desperate.”

19David noticed that his attendants were whispering among themselves, and he realized the child was dead. “Is the child dead?” he asked.

“Yes,” they replied, “he is dead.”

You know what, the new slogan for Christianity should simply be:

Just put the Bible on ignore, it will only get in the way of your Christianity.

lol
So man, are you one of those literal fundementalist atheists or are you a logical, coherent one?
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[The Grand Nudger]

Firstly, while it is living in a woman's body, using her oxygen and nutrients, it's solely her property because it is part of her body. Secondly, a man is not a "father" until a child is actually born. If the sperm donor wants it so badly he can take it and try to grow it up his fucking arse for all I care.

Hehehehe, negotiating from a position of biological advantage...I'm sure that won't come back to bite anyone in the ass.......lol.