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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
June 30, 2013 at 12:37 am
(June 30, 2013 at 12:36 am)Undeceived Wrote: Fine, I'll bite. I pick 2) brain activity. Prove me wrong.
Read the studies and prove yourself right.
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
June 30, 2013 at 1:17 am
(June 29, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: (June 28, 2013 at 8:21 pm)CleanShavenJesus Wrote: You can't disprove Thor's existence.
My science teachers said he was not real.
The same science teachers that taught you that evolution is a fact?
Or did you have your ears plugged up for that bit?
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 7:30 am
(June 30, 2013 at 12:20 am)Undeceived Wrote: Don't you mean "Brain damage leads to (behavior) change?" Personality can't be gauged directly by science.
Not just behaviour; beliefs too. Remember the half-atheist half-theist brain I posted a couple pages back. What else is personality, other than behaviour and beliefs?
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 11:52 am
(June 29, 2013 at 1:25 am)pocaracas Wrote: What sort of evidence is there that hints that it is? What would that evidence look like? What evidence would a non corporeal link between a physical body and a transdemensional being look like?
Quote:Why would anyone think that it is?
Why would Anyone think that any hypothsis has any foot hold in reality? It accuratly describes the relationship between Mind body and Spirit the bible describes, at the same time not conflict with what is currently known of the brain.
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 2:28 pm
(July 1, 2013 at 11:52 am)Drich Wrote: Why would Anyone think that any hypothsis has any foot hold in reality? It accuratly describes the relationship between Mind body and Spirit the bible describes, at the same time not conflict with what is currently known of the brain.
Uh, yeah... I'm sort of seeing a few words here that conflict with reality. Namely, "spirit," and "bible."
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 2:45 pm
(July 1, 2013 at 2:28 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (July 1, 2013 at 11:52 am)Drich Wrote: Why would Anyone think that any hypothsis has any foot hold in reality? It accuratly describes the relationship between Mind body and Spirit the bible describes, at the same time not conflict with what is currently known of the brain.
Uh, yeah... I'm sort of seeing a few words here that conflict with reality. Namely, "spirit," and "bible."
just because your personal version of reality has not been able to incorperate the spirit and the bible into it's realm of existance does not mean it does not exist.
For where were viruses and bacteria before they were discovered? Did they not exist simply because popular 'reality' did not recognise them? If you close your mind to the unknown, the unknown will remain that way.
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 2:56 pm
(July 1, 2013 at 2:45 pm)Drich Wrote: just because your personal version of reality has not been able to incorperate the spirit and the bible into it's realm of existance does not mean it does not exist.
You would need to demonstrate the reality of the spirit, and the historical accuracy of the bible, before one can claim to accept the existence of either and still hold onto any shred of rationality.
Quote:For where were viruses and bacteria before they were discovered? Did they not exist simply because popular 'reality' did not recognise them? If you close your mind to the unknown, the unknown will remain that way.
And if you accept the unknown before it has become known, you're no better than those raving homeless men standing on street corners. You could say this crap about any supernatural claim; don't beleive in the Egyptian goddess Bast? If you close your mind to the unknown, it will remain that way!
Not a believer in Allfather Odin? C'mon, give the unknown a chance!
What, you don't dedicate a pre-warmed solstice dildo to Prefnia, a fertility god I just made up? What do you have against the unknown?!
Drich, don't pretend that you're actually open minded here; you're just trying to cover for the fact that you have a presupposition that you can't possibly justify even vaguely, by any acceptable means, and yet you want to seem rational. The truth is, you don't accept all unknown claims as possible, because you're specifically obeying the religious edicts of a specific god, to the exclusion of all others.
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 3:03 pm
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(July 1, 2013 at 11:52 am)Drich Wrote: (June 29, 2013 at 1:25 am)pocaracas Wrote: What sort of evidence is there that hints that it is? What would that evidence look like? What evidence would a non corporeal link between a physical body and a transdemensional being look like? I have no idea... do you? I asked if there is any evidence...
And there is either such evidence, or people are just making this stuff up.... which is it?
(July 1, 2013 at 11:52 am)Drich Wrote: Quote:Why would anyone think that it is?
Why would Anyone think that any hypothsis has any foot hold in reality? It accuratly describes the relationship between Mind body and Spirit the bible describes, at the same time not conflict with what is currently known of the brain.
Well... you see... to me, reality is what exists, what is real.
If you hypothesize some interface between two real things, say touch sense and brain, you need to provide a way to find out how that interface works.
But you, not only hypothesize about an interface, but also about one of the end-points, spirit/soul.
If I make up one of the endpoints, of course I can also make up the interface so as to render everything consistent.
That doesn't mean that neither the endpoint nor the interface is real...
I like real things... I'm not very fond of imaginary ones...
And I hate when people mix them up and try to pass imaginary things as real.... and completely despise when people believe what those others claim.
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 3:44 pm
(June 30, 2013 at 1:17 am)Zen Badger Wrote: (June 29, 2013 at 2:17 pm)Godschild Wrote: My science teachers said he was not real.
The same science teachers that taught you that evolution is a fact?
Or did you have your ears plugged up for that bit?
My science teachers did not believe in evolution. They were to smart to be conned.
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RE: Why god is not real in my opinon
July 1, 2013 at 3:47 pm
(July 1, 2013 at 3:44 pm)Godschild Wrote: My science teachers did not believe in evolution. They were to smart to be conned.
Then your teacher has nothing to do with science and was simply smart enought to con you onto buying his nonsence.
He doesn`t even deserve the word teacher, but conman.
Why do you bring this up when every single antievolution claim by your kind of desperate fanatics has been proven to be a complete and utter attempt of decepting people into believing nonsence and nothing else!
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