Funnily enough I find it comforting that there is no God. The idea that there is some all powerful shithead running this show just fills me with horror. Judging by his demands we are not dealing with anything remotely humane here. Thankfully he is a mythical as Thor - and many times nastier.

(June 26, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Truth_finder23 Wrote: If there really was a god and he really is kind and forgiving, why would he put people on a tiny planet wizzing round a constant loop in a infinite universe and make us suffer the dread when another dies.

He rightfully separated us from initial knowledge of His glory so we could make a heart felt decision, with out the influence of absolute knowledge of God or the absolute real fear of Hell making our choice for us.

If you feel dread hen someone dies then you simply do not know God. without selecting the knowledge of God for yourself one can only feel dread of death.

Quote: Also our mind and thoughts are in our brain so there can not be an afterlife as our brain decays along with the rest of the soft tissue in our body.

how do you know that the 'brain' is not just the physical link between our souls and our bodies? in modern terms 'God' is simply a transdemensional being, He also promises eternal life in his realm for those who also believe. which would mean if we are not already we soon have the potential to be a transdemensional being as well. how do you know that when we die we simply don't just wake up from this world this "matrix?" (how do you know this life is not the dream? for is the bible is correct this llife is nothing more than the briefest of dreams.)

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Also if god was real then surley he would have let so called early humans such as Adam and Eve about there vast universe to show there power. That brings me on to another point, females existed before males and the Y cromosome is a mutated X cromosome so that renderes the story of Adam and Eve a lie. Take that religion.
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says who? the process in which we all start out as females ad ten the males are showered in testosterone causing the y to mutate to an x?

Is this process how the bible says Adam was formed? (Hint: nope, Adam was formed out of clay by the hand of God) are we made from clay in our mothers womb? ( Another hint:Noope again) So if the two process are completely different then why do you assume that Adam was created the same way we are?

(June 27, 2013 at 11:47 am)Godschild Wrote:

(June 27, 2013 at 5:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So i get to believe in Thor?

Awesome

Sorry Zen, Thor is not spirit.

You can't disprove Thor's existence.

(June 28, 2013 at 7:33 pm)Drich Wrote: He rightfully separated us from initial knowledge of His glory so we could make a heart felt decision, with out the influence of absolute knowledge of God or the absolute real fear of Hell making our choice for us.

Seems like a pointless step. I've made my "heart felt decision". I simply cannot choose to worship this god - as doing so would be to abandon whatever good there is in me. If this were a matter of knowledge, if I knew that god was "up there" and hell was real...my decision would remain unchanged. Neither would be capable of "making my choice for me". No, Drich...I'm afraid that this one's about as transparent an excuse as they come.

(June 26, 2013 at 9:54 pm)Godschild Wrote:

(June 26, 2013 at 9:37 pm)Truth_finder23 Wrote: i dont know i just that i have been thinking alot lately about how after i am dead then i will just disapear and how life has no meaning. I was christian when i was a child because of my family and i would love to have a belife in god but there is to much scientific evidence against god.

There is no scientific evidence against God, how does science bring proof to a being that is spirit.

And there sure as fuck is no evidence for him. The burden of proof to sustain your fantasies is YOURS. It is not up to us to disprove your delusions.

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(June 27, 2013 at 11:47 am)Godschild Wrote:

(June 27, 2013 at 5:50 am)Zen Badger Wrote: So i get to believe in Thor?

Awesome

Sorry Zen, Thor is not spirit.

More special pleading by the king of special pleading.

Thor is Waaaayyy cooler than fucking jesus, Z. Go for it.

You know the best thing about Thor? He [eventually] comes to terms with his own mistakes and limitations......and doesn't require some lame ass cadre of apologists failing to make excuses for him on a daily basis.

How about the Dagda? Can I believe in the Tuatha de Dannan?

I believe sloths can fly.

(June 26, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Truth_finder23 Wrote: If there really was a god and he really is kind and forgiving, why would he put people on a tiny planet wizzing round a constant loop in a infinite universe and make us suffer the dread when another dies.

God wants to know you personally. If he made heaven on earth, we wouldn't seek Him and neither of us would have the pleasure of knowing each other. "Religion" is the quest to connect the created to their creator. Here's what God says to you: "For I know the plans I have for you, plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future." (Jeremiah 29:11)

(June 26, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Truth_finder23 Wrote: Also our mind and thoughts are in our brain so there can not be an afterlife as our brain decays along with the rest of the soft tissue in our body.

Scientists do not yet know where consciousness is. In philosophy, the argument between Materialism and Dualism rages on. Materialists say that firing neurons somehow constitute thoughts. Dualists say that an immaterial mind interacts with our neurons. In Christianity, the immaterial mind, or soul, is spiritual and eternal.

(June 26, 2013 at 9:27 pm)Truth_finder23 Wrote: females existed before males and the Y cromosome is a mutated X cromosome so that renderes the story of Adam and Eve a lie.

Did scientists observe the mutation? Have they traveled back in time to find out how the sexes came to be? You're right that if the sexes evolved, the female would have to come first. But there is no current physical evidence relating to sexual origins.

(June 28, 2013 at 7:33 pm)Drich Wrote:

Quote: Also our mind and thoughts are in our brain so there can not be an afterlife as our brain decays along with the rest of the soft tissue in our body.

how do you know that the 'brain' is not just the physical link between our souls and our bodies?

What sort of evidence is there that hints that it is?
Why would anyone think that it is?