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One question for Christians
RE: One question for Christians
(July 10, 2013 at 3:08 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote:
(July 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: So, what is the light source of a flashlight?

The moon is not a light source. Period. What is it you're trying to argue here, GC?

Answer the question if you are smart enough.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: One question for Christians
(July 10, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Let's not forget the moon being a light source to rule the night!

Genesis 1:16 Wrote:God made two great lights--the greater light to govern the day and the lesser light to govern the night. He also made the stars.

And Yahweh made the greater light, presumably the sun, to "govern the day". That always struck me as strange since the sun doesn't just "rule the day". It defines the whole concept.
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I don't have to, GC. DeistPaladin just did. If I could high five him right now I would.
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RE: One question for Christians
(July 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm)Godschild Wrote:
(July 10, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Let's not forget the moon being a light source to rule the night!

So, what is the light source of a flashlight?

Batteries
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Dead wrong.  The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.

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RE: One question for Christians
(July 10, 2013 at 9:24 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(July 10, 2013 at 1:22 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Let's not forget the moon being a light source to rule the night!

And Yahweh made the greater light, presumably the sun, to "govern the day". That always struck me as strange since the sun doesn't just "rule the day". It defines the whole concept.

The light of the sun and the light of the moon have different symbolic connotations in the Judeo/Christian script. The correspondence between sunlight and ruling the day are fractilizations of something more erudite.

The light of the moon,generally speaking, rules the foolish; thoughtless, impulsive and materialistic, ignorant. While the light of the sun rules the prudent; circumspect, stoic and learned. The sun rules the moon just as those who walk by the light of day rule those who walk in the dark or so the analogy goes.
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RE: One question for Christians
(July 10, 2013 at 10:14 pm)missluckie26 Wrote:
(July 10, 2013 at 2:16 pm)Godschild Wrote: So, what is the light source of a flashlight?

Batteries

Wrong. You're half way though.

(July 10, 2013 at 9:59 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: I don't have to, GC. DeistPaladin just did. If I could high five him right now I would.

DP said nothing about a flashlight, what's the matter scared to answer my question, same as the other threads, you're full of nothing.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: One question for Christians
Swing and a miss again! Oh, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to answer your question. Too bad DP answered it already in the same manner I would have. Nothing more need be said.
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RE: One question for Christians
(July 10, 2013 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: DP said nothing about a flashlight, what's the matter scared to answer my question, same as the other threads, you're full of nothing.

I take it you're trying to draw an analogy by how flashlights use reflection to augment and direct the light produced by their own internal bulb? And this is a justification for Genesis 1:16?

Two problems:
1. The flashlight has its own light source internal to it. So it is a light source, even though it uses reflection.
2. The verse specifies that the moon doesn't just reflect light but is a light source itself.

Quote:Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
Atheist Forums Hall of Shame:
"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: One question for Christians
(July 11, 2013 at 12:06 am)BadWriterSparty Wrote: Swing and a miss again! Oh, I'm sorry, I'm supposed to answer your question. Too bad DP answered it already in the same manner I would have. Nothing more need be said.

You are a user, you think I've thrown out something to trick you, so you're going to let missluckie answer the question so you want look foolish, that a boy, you're a real man.

(July 11, 2013 at 12:17 am)DeistPaladin Wrote:
(July 10, 2013 at 11:23 pm)Godschild Wrote: DP said nothing about a flashlight, what's the matter scared to answer my question, same as the other threads, you're full of nothing.

I take it you're trying to draw an analogy by how flashlights use reflection to augment and direct the light produced by their own internal bulb? And this is a justification for Genesis 1:16?

Two problems:
1. The flashlight has its own light source internal to it. So it is a light source, even though it uses reflection.
2. The verse specifies that the moon doesn't just reflect light but is a light source itself.

Quote:Gen 1:16 And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.

Wasn't where I was going, and the scripture does not say it's the moons a light source, it is called the lesser light, now I wonder why, could it be that God was saying the moon needed the sun, would explain the word lesser.
God loves those who believe and those who do not and the same goes for me, you have no choice in this matter. That puts the matter of total free will to rest.
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RE: One question for Christians
That's called special pleading. It's okay to concede points when you're proven wrong. People will think more of you for doing so.
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