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Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:01 pm
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I mean... seriously, can we? Because this is one of his latest radio spots:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OtkhNRb-SM
There's a bunch of these things, and they're all so terribly earnest, it's kind of lovely. Complete turkeys like this don't usually lay down on the platter and hand you the carving knife. The man is a comedy diamond.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Actually he is just a bible-thumping con man who has made a fortune by selling bullshit to gullible fools.
We have several on this board.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:09 pm
I have trouble believing that people like him, and most of all, Ray Comfort, actually believes in what they're saying. But I've heard Comfort's interview and if he's faking, he's really good at it.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm
There's good money in fooling the already deluded masses. I suspect that some of these mega-christians are in it for the money alone. I'd go so far as to say that the richest among them might even be atheists.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:13 pm
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(August 19, 2013 at 1:01 pm)Esquilax Wrote: I mean... seriously, can we?
Don't forget to point, Esq.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:18 pm
(August 19, 2013 at 1:09 pm)pineapplebunnybounce Wrote: I have trouble believing that people like him, and most of all, Ray Comfort, actually believes in what they're saying. But I've heard Comfort's interview and if he's faking, he's really good at it.
It's possible that some of them don't believe what they're peddling and keep doing it because it's lucrative. You have folks like those televangelists who lived very different lives than they preached (Baker, Swaggart, for example). But a combination of ignorance and stubbornness with a healthy dose of confirmation bias could be keeping them from learning enough to understand why they're wrong. The notion that he's putting "a final nail in evolution's coffin" seems so spectacularly wrong that it leaves you breathless, but for many believers it makes perfect sense because they really don't understand evolution.
To the person who believes that evolution can be debunked because "monkeys still exist," these jokers are downright brilliant.
"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:21 pm
(August 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: There's good money in fooling the already deluded masses. I suspect that some of these mega-christians are in it for the money alone. I'd go so far as to say that the richest among them might even be atheists.
This speaks volumes!
Quis ut Deus?
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:25 pm
(August 19, 2013 at 1:21 pm)ronedee Wrote: (August 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: There's good money in fooling the already deluded masses. I suspect that some of these mega-christians are in it for the money alone. I'd go so far as to say that the richest among them might even be atheists.
This speaks volumes!
Way to take things out of context (like most theists). Troll.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:27 pm
(August 19, 2013 at 1:21 pm)ronedee Wrote: (August 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: There's good money in fooling the already deluded masses. I suspect that some of these mega-christians are in it for the money alone. I'd go so far as to say that the richest among them might even be atheists.
This speaks volumes!
You're an idiot.
Nobody here is claiming that all atheists are good people, just that they are people. And if it turns out that these conmen are atheists, you know what we won't do? We won't back away at fucking top speed, like you and other theists do every time someone identifying as christian does something wrong. We accept the facts, and move on.
If a murderer is an atheist, then he or she is an immoral atheist. If a christian is a murderer, then they "weren't a true christian." You're right, ronny: this does speak volumes. Just, sadly, not about what you seem to think it's about.
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RE: Can we just laugh at Ken Ham for a bit?
August 19, 2013 at 1:30 pm
(August 19, 2013 at 1:21 pm)ronedee Wrote: (August 19, 2013 at 1:12 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: There's good money in fooling the already deluded masses. I suspect that some of these mega-christians are in it for the money alone. I'd go so far as to say that the richest among them might even be atheists.
This speaks volumes!
Yes, it does. And what it's saying is this: "You've been had."
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