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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 8:58 pm
(This post was last modified: October 13, 2013 at 9:00 pm by Tiberius.)
1) Being pro-life does not mean you want to ban abortion.
2) Being pro-life for me means accepting that human embryos are humans, and have a right to life just as everyone else. There are some instances where the rights of the mother outweighs that of the child. There are some instances where the reverse is true.
3) It's ultimately not about what people want, it's about life and death. I don't think anyone (male or female) should be able to end a life just because they don't want a child that has already been created.
My interest is only in morality here. I cannot comprehend how it is considered immoral for one to kill a child after it has left the womb, but not before. That is as far as the issue goes for me. For me to become "pro-choice", all you would have to do is demonstrate a sound moral argument for why it is ok to kill humans in the womb (regardless of the situation).
FYI, if men were the ones carrying children, I'd feel the same way. This has zero to do with sex / gender, hence why I don't think you'll find any of my views misogynistic.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 9:13 pm
Quote:1) Being pro-life does not mean you want to ban abortion.
Depends on which side of the pond you live on. Over here, that is precisely what it means.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 9:18 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 9:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Quote:1) Being pro-life does not mean you want to ban abortion.
Depends on which side of the pond you live on. Over here, that is precisely what it means.
This goes against what you said of me... You said I deserved the label "pro life" and you meant it in a positive way. You know my view and how I don't want to ban abortion.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 10:14 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 9:18 pm)SouthernAtheist Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 9:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Depends on which side of the pond you live on. Over here, that is precisely what it means.
This goes against what you said of me... You said I deserved the label "pro life" and you meant it in a positive way. You know my view and how I don't want to ban abortion. That was me, Zazzy, who said that, not Min.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 10:45 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 9:18 pm)SouthernAtheist Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 9:13 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Depends on which side of the pond you live on. Over here, that is precisely what it means.
This goes against what you said of me... You said I deserved the label "pro life" and you meant it in a positive way. You know my view and how I don't want to ban abortion.
You said "you did not think it should be illegal." I don't give a rat's ass what anyone thinks. It is the conduct of blocking clinics, shooting doctors, electing fascist cocksuckers who do want to make it illegal, etc., that I oppose.
You know....
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These cunts.
Especially the cassock wearing pervert who belongs to the child rapist society of jesus.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 11:01 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 10:14 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 9:18 pm)SouthernAtheist Wrote: This goes against what you said of me... You said I deserved the label "pro life" and you meant it in a positive way. You know my view and how I don't want to ban abortion. That was me, Zazzy, who said that, not Min.
I apologize, got you guys mixed up!
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 11:03 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 11:01 pm)SouthernAtheist Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 10:14 pm)Zazzy Wrote: That was me, Zazzy, who said that, not Min.
I apologize, got you guys mixed up! Well, we do look a lot alike. I definitely look better in a cocktail dress, though.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 11:21 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 11:03 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 11:01 pm)SouthernAtheist Wrote: I apologize, got you guys mixed up! Well, we do look a lot alike. I definitely look better in a cocktail dress, though.
Doubtlessly.
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 13, 2013 at 11:43 pm
(October 13, 2013 at 8:03 pm)Zazzy Wrote: (October 13, 2013 at 7:31 pm)Heir Apparent Wrote: However, a lizard with no condoms is a clown. Touche, sir. I recognize when I am defeated in debate. I do notice, however, that you did not specify the type of lizard, which leaves room for me to insert a creator, as well as to suspect your unwavering support for unhatched lizard rights.
This must be what it feels like to be Grace, except with a better vocabulary.
Well I reject your hypothesis and suggest that you are a loon, yes a loon, for not believing in the OBVIOUS lord and savior Lizardomus, and wish you a happy eternity in the Dread Swamp.
Certainly you would believe in Lizardomus just in case he does exist right? Because if you don't believe and he DOES exist then you're damned!
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RE: godless pro-lifers
October 14, 2013 at 12:12 am
(This post was last modified: October 14, 2013 at 12:12 am by Whateverist.)
I haven't really thought it through enough to know whether I agree that everyone who is against abortion must be misogynous. However I can't think of any way of legislating the options of those who become pregnant in any way which would not be unacceptably intrusive. Women become pregnant as a result of the sexual behavior of men and women. Since all the consequences of that behavior accrue to just one sex I can't help but feel the need to shut the fuck up about what women should do when they find themselves with a pregnancy they do not wish to carry to term.
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