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Oprah speaks for atheists?
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RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 15, 2013 at 3:30 pm)Minimalist Wrote:
(October 15, 2013 at 9:03 am)Tiberius Wrote: Unrelated to the actual thread, but to the article linked in the OP:


This opening paragraph of the article in question I think completely undersells the accomplishment of Diana Nyad. She didn't just swim from Cuba to Florida. She did so, unaided, at the age of 64. Now that is truly remarkable.

I'm sure that at some level Oprah thinks she couldn't have made it without a little help from her sky-daddy. I guess the first four times he tried to drown her and then decided oh, what-the-fuck!

Right, and I am sure the Koch brothers who are "fuck you I got mine" believers think that an invisible friend favored them as well.

I think the crap she supports like Dr Phil and Dumb Dumb Crapra are more along the misguided sense of "Cant we all just get along".

I don't reject all people, believer or not, who get rich merely because they hold beliefs I find absurd. I think well intended people can want the best for humanity but also falsely put "cant we all just get along" before pragmatic fact finding.

Oprah is smart, but her weight and wealth is geared toward empathy. I would vote for her before I would vote for Bill Gates. I do however think both live in a bubble as far as how much the pay gap has hurt us.
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#22
RE: Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
Oprah thinks she is god Afro

As are you, and me, and that tree over there, and this glass of water, and, you get the point.
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#23
RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
Hopefully the Koch-suckers remember that they inherited their wealth from daddy.

Then again, with these fuckers you never know.
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#24
RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 15, 2013 at 5:26 pm)Minimalist Wrote: Hopefully the Koch-suckers remember that they inherited their wealth from daddy.

Then again, with these fuckers you never know.

I'm always amused that the Tea Partiers aren't aware that the movement is bankroled by inherited money made from Soviet oil production.
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#25
RE: Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
Cthulhu says that Oprah is full of shit.
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#26
RE: Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
So....

Oprah is a bigot.

Is ignorant of the meaning of atheist.

And has redefined 'awe' and 'mystery' as god.

Then she's a moron. Good to know.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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#27
RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
Not to mention a founder of the John Birch Society.
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#28
RE: Oprah tells atheist swimmer Diana Nyad that atheists don't believe in 'awe' and 'wond
Who is Oprah?

















And where are my pants?
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#29
RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
(October 15, 2013 at 7:55 am)Kayenneh Wrote:
Douglas Adams Wrote:Isn't it enough to see that a garden is beautiful without having to believe that there are fairies at the bottom of it too?

I think what mystifies religious people (who aren't that inquisitive), is that how someone can indeed see the beauty of things, but yet perfectly knowing why it is so.

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Knowing and understanding the world around me makes it all even more marvellous.


Theists seem to think the sense of wonder is made so much more special by the thought that it was put together like that to please us. That is the chief point I would want to make to Oprah. It needn't be all about us for a thing to be beautiful or wonder-full. The naive expectation that the universe is addressing itself to us as individuals is infantile, or perhaps narcissistic. Becoming willing to be a part but not the center of the universe is a natural part of maturation. But as with the cosmological Copernican revolution, this one too seems to have passed most Christians by.

I don't find I have to understand the physics of a phenomenon to appreciate its aesthetic qualities. But, like you, the more I understand, the greater my appreciation. It isn't necessary to think Santa puts presents under the tree to enjoy Christmas. But many Christians do seem to revel in their gullibility.
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#30
RE: Oprah speaks for atheists?
Fuck Oprah and her $30,000 purse.
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