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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 5:38 am
(November 23, 2013 at 5:02 am)Firstruth Wrote: (November 22, 2013 at 1:44 pm)freedomfromfallacy Wrote: It was dark on that cold rainy day when the earliest humans first heard thunder in the sky. They found strange comfort in giving nature the name of a god, and never needing to reason, or bother even asking a question. Their fear of the unknown caused them to create fantasies to overcome their deep sense of ignorance, and thus, man made god.
wow, what scientific intelligent answers this forum has: NOT! 
Oh, the irony......
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 7:46 am
(November 23, 2013 at 5:02 am)Firstruth Wrote: wow, what scientific intelligent answers this forum has: NOT!
You are the pinnacle of wit sir!
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'You can have all the faith you want in spirits, and the afterlife, and heaven and hell, but when it comes to this world, don't be an idiot. Cause you can tell me you put your faith in God to put you through the day, but when it comes time to cross the road, I know you look both ways.' - Dr House
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 11:05 am
Let me try something here...
God isn't real because my dad told me so. Plus, if he was real, how can you explain all of the atheists here? There are clearly more Atheists than Theists, so...BOOYAH!
If you can't prove it, that means it's false. I said it first...double triple stamp, no take-backs!
Not only that, but I prayed one time, and nothing happened.
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 11:13 am
I was waiting for another nut bag of drift in, this one reminds me of enrico
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 11:35 am
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2013 at 11:36 am by The Reality Salesman01.)
Lol...
It was worth a shot. I was just to trying to argue on his level.
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 12:44 pm
(November 23, 2013 at 11:35 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Lol...
It was worth a shot. I was just to trying to argue on his level.
That's what I thought .. and seems to have worked.
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 12:56 pm
(November 23, 2013 at 11:35 am)The Reality Salesman Wrote: Lol...
It was worth a shot. I was just to trying to argue on his level.
You need a brain injury for that. Try beating your head in with a brick, that might take you to Enrico's level.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 12:57 pm
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 1:00 pm
(November 22, 2013 at 1:40 pm)BadWriterSparty Wrote: To quote Apo: "What a bunch of hooey."
And not even chewy hooey like enrico feeds us.
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RE: All the problems with Christianity
November 23, 2013 at 1:22 pm
(November 11, 2013 at 11:06 pm)Avodaiah Wrote: ...in one easy-to-find thread!
Hi all, I'm making a list of all the problems people have with Christianity. So please post the ones that are most problematic to you. They can be in the form of questions, insults, logical arguments, or whatever.
I'll try and answer them the best I can.
Among other things, of which there are many, I have a problem with what is basically the core of the christian belief. Different authors give us a story of Jesus' birth, death, and resurrection, and get many details different. From what happened to Joseph and Mary before he was born, to when the last supper was held, when he died, and who was at the tomb. Plus there was supposedly an eclipse, and dead saints rising from their graves, that wasn't mentioned anywhere but in the bible. I've even read that there wasn't even a census that supposedly caused Joseph and Mary to need to move from one town to the other.
Now about Jesus in particular. Supposedly he came to spread the word and save everyone, but Yahweh decided to just send one person down, once in human history, to spend a few years preaching in a backwater part of the world, then dying. Then supposedly being put in a tomb, which was odd because they didn't usually put criminals in tombs anyway. If Jesus was real, and was crucified, he was most likely thrown into a pit with the other criminals and buried there.
So this is supposed to be a sacrifice. If he's part of the trinity, what has God lost from doing that? How is he weaker now than he was before. Jesus was supposedly born, spent thirty years on earth, had an admittedly horrible, torturous week, then went up to heaven to rule the cosmos. That doesn't seem like much of a sacrifice. If I decide to cut off my finger, then have it reattached, what have I really lost in the long run?
Lastly, we get to what we're being "saved" from. If I make a bonfire, gather a crowd together, and tell them to be my slaves or burn to death, I'm not saving them. I'm blackmailing them. This is the biggest problem when you tell people your deity is the originator of all things, and is all powerful. That means he's ultimately responsible for everything. With great power comes great responsibility, and he's the greatest of all.
It's not like he's all knowing or all powerful in the old testament. You have people convincing him to change his mind, or wrestling him to a stalemate, or even beating him with iron chariots. I'm also certain genesis was added after other books, so he wasn't even originally the creator of the universe according to the oldest stories. He was a lesser war god of the canaanite or babylonian pantheon, hence why he was in charge of wars. He was basically the ancient isrealite version of Ares. He spoke to people in person and had an actual personal relationship with them, according to the stories. Not like now, where he's invisible and his very existence is up for debate.
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