Islam IS the true religion of humanity.

[Lemonvariable72]

I've gotten a positive response from many atheists already, or maybe not so atheist anymore. So long I've been here I've gotten a pretty positive response from those who are recognizing the truth.

Name one. One user here who identifies as an atheist, who has taken a single word you've said seriously. Username and supporting quotes, please.

Cue sock account.

[Cyberman]

Oh, I hope so. My banhammer thirsts.

[Jackalope]

Gotta say, Sleepy - I've been lurking in this thread and you've made one hell of a case for Islam here.

[Minimalist]

I suggest to you all read the Quran, and strive to improve your character.

I've tried. It's fucking drivel. In fact, its the same kind of fucking drivel that's in the bible from where most of it was plagiarized.

[Ryantology]

If he gets banned, he'll just spend all his time looking at Muslim porn.



ugh so hot

[Rayaan]

I wonder what Rayaan has to say about all this... ?

Sometimes I prefer to speak with silence ... especially in this kind of a chaotic crossfire that sucks out so much of your time and energy once you jump in ...

I'm a STEALTH assassin.

[Jacob(smooth)]

Gotta say, Sleepy - I've been lurking in this thread and you've made one hell of a case for Islam here.

I would think that the girls in particular will find Islam hard to resist after this presentation. I'm sure they are all secretly longing to be in a marriage where they are obliged to consent to sex anytime their husbands demand it, irrespective of their feelings. Being able to have a choice in the matter is probably causing them no end of grief in their atheist unions.

What say you girls? This sounding good for you?

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As a Btw I asked my good lady how she would feel about such an arrangement. She said it would work provided I didn't mind her "managing demand" by ripping my testicles off.

I think I'll stick to the Christian model.

[Esquilax]

I would think that the girls in particular will find Islam hard to resist after this presentation. I'm sure they are all secretly longing to be in a marriage where they are obliged to consent to sex anytime their husbands demand it, irrespective of their feelings. Being able to have a choice in the matter is probably causing them no end of grief in their atheist unions.

Ah Jesus, I just realized I hadn't gone back and looked over the night's posts from when I was gone, and when I just did...

Fucking hell. I feel like I no longer need to make a counterargument to any of this "Islam doesn't objectify women" stuff anymore, I can just link to Sleepy's posts on marriage and leave it at that.

The man appears to have no self awareness at all. He must be very surprised whenever he looks down.

[The Valkyrie]

Gotta say, Sleepy - I've been lurking in this thread and you've made one hell of a case for Islam here.

I would think that the girls in particular will find Islam hard to resist after this presentation. I'm sure they are all secretly longing to be in a marriage where they are obliged to consent to sex anytime their husbands demand it, irrespective of their feelings. Being able to have a choice in the matter is probably causing them no end of grief in their atheist unions.

What say you girls? This sounding good for you?

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As a Btw I asked my good lady how she would feel about such an arrangement. She said it would work provided I didn't mind her "managing demand" by ripping my testicles off.

I think I'll stick to the Christian model.

Sounds just wonderful.

I can give up the job I've trained so hard for and start wearing a sack. I can burn all my swimsuits, my shorts and dresses, wifebeaters and everything else. Oh, and I'll have to sell my bike because, I assume, Sleeps is the sort who doesn't want women driving, especially a motorbike with a seat we have to - GASP - wrap our legs around!

And I'll have to give up surfing too, most likely.

There's an opportunity I didn't even dream of before.

On a different note, I work with an American Muslim girl here in Kiwiland, and she's one of the nicest, smartest people I've ever met. She describes herself as a cultural or modern Muslim. She believe in the basic tenets of the religion, prays (but not every day), has an occasional drink and lives just like a regular person you would expect from California. She says she lives by her religion but doesn't believe in any of that "12th century tribal bullshit".

[WesOlsen]

It's just astonishing to see the reaction of muslim women to the comments of muslim men. I forced this exact scenario in my last place of work; I wanted to make my male muslim colleague reiterate his views on the whole '4 wives ruling' and offer justification for it whilst I knew two of my female muslim colleagues were in earshot. Sure enough he unwittingly explained that he is allowed up to 4 wives because the book says so, yadda yadda, and that it was for the woman's benefit because it is such a shame when there are women without husbands and that they have needs etc. When I asked why women aren't allowed for husbands he said because the women couldn't be sure who the father was to potential offspring and that's why it had to be one man per 4 women. I tried explaining the maths to him, by stating that we would soon run out of female candidates for men as the population is not 1:4 men to women but he flat out rejected this (I think he genuinely thought that there were four times as many women to men in every country). By this time my female colleagues had absorbed quite enough and were more than willing to wade in to the conversation and admit that there was no way they would share their husbands with another woman. And there we had one of the most awkward moments i've ever bore witness to, and I bloody relished every second of it. There was some crude justification from that guy, and the two girls were firm with their "no way" stance. I think it's testament to the strength of liberal democracy that the women felt ok getting their objections out like that in the open, knowing that there were employment rights etc that would in theory protect them from anything too sexist being touted in the workplace. What a shame their holy book has it penned for all to see, whether they liked it or not. In most muslim countries I expect the women would sit in silence and take every blow right on the chin. Still, no chance of getting them to see how much their religion treats them like a few coins, ripe for bartering and exploiting at the discretion of the male master.