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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 2:10 am
Why do so many forum members presuppose that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
Repent and believe the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is forgiveness for everyone who repents. God's forgiveness does not mean there are no consequences for sin (jail, diseases, death, etc.). It does mean we are not eternally condemned.
It is not true that Christ's death is a "sin all you want" card. Repent. No one who lives a life of of willful sin is in Christ (a Christian).
1Should we sin so that grace may abound? By no means. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (Romans 6:1-6)
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: (1 John 1:6)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. (1 John 2:4-5)
If it could be proven beyond doubt that God exists...
and that He is the one spoken of in the Bible...
would you repent of your sins and place your faith in Jesus Christ?
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 2:21 am
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 3:07 am
(December 23, 2013 at 8:08 pm)TaraJo Wrote: Convicted sex offender claims he found Jesus while in prison and asks for a lesser sentence because of it.
http://www.opposingviews.com/i/society/c...-suspended#
Fortunately, the judge has enough sense to refuse his request. Still, it bugs me to know that, had he gotten the right judge, it would have gone right through.
Lots of people become born again in Jail, because the New Testament says that all sins will be forgiven if you put your trust in Jesus as your lord and savior.
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 3:26 am
(December 24, 2013 at 2:10 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Why do so many forum members presuppose that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
Who's presupposing this?
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 3:34 am
(December 24, 2013 at 2:10 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Why do so many forum members presuppose that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
Because without being able to look into people's heads there's no honest way of knowing, and since we know humans can be hypocrites sometimes it's far more honest to take people at their word instead of employing the no true scotsman fallacy. 
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 4:11 am
(December 24, 2013 at 2:10 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Why do so many forum members presuppose that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
Repent and believe the good news of the gospel of Jesus Christ. There is forgiveness for everyone who repents. God's forgiveness does not mean there are no consequences for sin (jail, diseases, death, etc.). It does mean we are not eternally condemned.
It is not true that Christ's death is a "sin all you want" card. Repent. No one who lives a life of of willful sin is in Christ (a Christian).
1Should we sin so that grace may abound? By no means. What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. (Romans 6:1-6)
6 If we say that we have fellowship with him, and walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth: (1 John 1:6)
4 He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him. 5 But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him. (1 John 2:4-5)
So we should distrust your claim to be a Christian then?
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 4:46 am
(December 24, 2013 at 2:10 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Why do so many forum members presuppose that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
So you're lying when you say you're a Christian then?
Good to know! What are you then? A Hindu? A Sikh? Maybe even an atheist?
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 12:58 pm
Maybe he read the "Lisa" Chick tract which basically says that it's OK if you rape your young daughter as long as you find Jesus and repent.
http://www.fmh-child.org/Lisa.html
The truly fucked up thing is that there are people out there who believe that this imprisoned rapist is now going to go to heaven, but if his victim isn't a Christian she'll burn in Hell.
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 1:01 pm
(December 24, 2013 at 2:10 am)orangebox21 Wrote: Why do so many forum members presuppose that everyone who claims to be a Christian is one?
Why would they lie about that?
I suppose next you'll have us question the honesty of the scripture writers, because up to now, everyone was assuming those "christians" were telling the truth too.
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RE: How do you avoid being held responsible for rape: Jesus!
December 24, 2013 at 1:08 pm
Why do so many Christians presuppose that a "bad" person claiming to be a Christian isn't really a Christian?
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