Christians, prove your minds aren't molested by fear.

[Mystical]

I'm sorry, I don't understand. Bear with me.

I get that you're not afraid of any of those things. In similar style I'm unbothered about frost giants. I can see where there is no reason for you to NOT do those things.

What I don't understand is why you WOULD do those things. The positive as opposed to the absence of negative. Is it to assert your freedom in some way?

You, on the other hand, have not been brought up with fear of a frosty hell if you don't believe in frost giants. You haven't been made to fear frost demons in your waking and sleeping consciousness. Frost god is not prevalent in every part of your brain as being a see'er of all things, a knower of your thoughts and intentions, an arbiter of eternal judgement on your life, actions, and thoughts. The tendrils of the frost god have not overtaken your entire body and mind.
If he had, and you realized frost god was just a figment of someone's imagination, but you were still afraid of frost god: you'd want to prove to yourself that frost god doesn't exist. You'd flip him off and see if he made you into an ice sculpture. You'd tell the frost demons to do everything you'd been made afraid they would do, and wait and see if it was true. When nothing happened, you'd get angry. You'd want to irreparably break ties with frost god in your heart and using his own ridiculous notion of an unforgivable sin-- would just about do it.

Any questions?

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Oh I see what you did there! Clever lad you are!
I guess this thread is a pile of croc! Oh my, I'm such a halfwit. Hee hee. But I'm still going to walk on the gold pavement hands locked with good old Jesus, that silly mutt, right? Cause that's all that really matters to me anyhow.

Maybe you're too thick for the subject matter.

Alice: You can learn a lot of things from the flowers... Huh! Seems to me they could learn a few things about manners!

[Mudhammam]

Are you unaware of the fallibility of humans?

You don't say? hock:

I could really go philosophically nuts over that... but none of this matters, and none of this pertains to my contention.

Or just nuts, if you want to take the religion route.

Trying to manipulate other people to do your bidding is what I find issue with. If you're going to do it: have the damn class to do it well enough that they don't know they follow your will.

It read as juvenile bullying. It was elementary-quality manipulation, end of.



Maybe you're too thick for the subject matter.

Did I... did I offend your sensibilities, Alice? I'm so sorry.

Wait, no I'm not. This is an internet forum. Grow up and stop acting like such a baby.

[Mystical]

Did I... did I offend your sensibilities, Alice? I'm so sorry.

Wait, no I'm not. This is an internet forum. Grow up and stop acting like such a baby.

HEY! Boy. I will shove this boomerang so far up your butt you will be vomitting kangaroos!

[fr0d0]

You, on the other hand, have not been brought up with fear of a frosty hell if you don't believe in frost giants. You haven't been made to fear frost demons in your waking and sleeping consciousness. Frost god is not prevalent in every part of your brain as being a see'er of all things, a knower of your thoughts and intentions, an arbiter of eternal judgement on your life, actions, and thoughts. The tendrils of the frost god have not overtaken your entire body and mind.
If he had, and you realized frost god was just a figment of someone's imagination, but you were still afraid of frost god: you'd want to prove to yourself that frost god doesn't exist. You'd flip him off and see if he made you into an ice sculpture. You'd tell the frost demons to do everything you'd been made afraid they would do, and wait and see if it was true. When nothing happened, you'd get angry. You'd want to irreparably break ties with frost god in your heart and using his own ridiculous notion of an unforgivable sin-- would just about do it.

Any questions?

The problem for you seems to be to overcome your indoctrination and separate that from reality. Not to judge others by the cruel fantasy that you've been fed. I think it's a step in the right direction you naming it. Frosty god is evil.

[Mudhammam]

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This man, sincerely believed god talked to him and wanted him to kill the leaders of the LDS church.

How do we know if the killing was just or not?

I certainly wouldn't know.

In a court limited to incomplete knowledge, I would convict the man of murder.

That has no bearing on the ultimate justice of the man's actions. Only a perfect judge could know that.

Here's what I should have said:

The problem for you seems to be to overcome your indoctrination and separate that from reality. Not to judge others by the cruel fantasy that you've been fed.

But why not just throw up your hands and say, "I can't determine reality from cruel fantasy one way or another because I don't have perfect judgment." Wasn't that your argument for killing children in the name of God? You don't seem very consistent.

[Violet]

Alice: You can learn a lot of things from the flowers... Huh! Seems to me they could learn a few things about manners!

That song gave me Elephantiasis.

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Are you unaware of the fallibility of humans?

You don't say? hock:

I think, rather... that I did.

Or just nuts, if you want to take the religion route.

Oh? Am I taking a religious route?

Did I... did I offend your sensibilities, Alice? I'm so sorry.

Wait, no I'm not. This is an internet forum. Grow up and stop acting like such a baby.

No, you just looked like a brat, and I felt I should inform you, lest someone dangerous feel offended by you. This is a rare act of kindness, mortal

I'm afraid I can never grow up, Shonuff. That's the thing about being dead, you see.

[Wyrd of Gawd]

Type the following words, say them aloud to yourself. You don't have to mean them. And of course, you can ask your God for forgiveness if you feel dirty afterwards. But prove that you're not actually buying into the crap you believe in based on fear by uttering the simple phrases, knowing "in your heart" what you actually think. Look, I'll try it from my end.

I love the Lord with all my heart and mind. God is great.

I don't mean any of that but it was fairly easy for me to type, knowing how meaningless the words actually are. Now you try:

Jesus is a retarded piece of shit. Yahweh is the dumbest god of them all.

Can you type that? If not, is it because you're afraid?

A deity might not do anything but the religious fanatics sure will.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defamation_...ed_Nations

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blasphemy_law

[Marvin]

I've never been a Christian, fear may have had its way with me once or twice.

[Mystical]

So lets say you committed a doozie (not that sins have different levels of severity according to the Bible anyway), but lets just say you committed adultery. You had sex with someone outside your marriage. Would you not feel that unless you repent before you go to judgement, then you're going to go to hell?

I would think I'd put myself in hell in the moment, if indeed I was convinced that my action was harmful.

My eternal condemnation would have zero bearing. How would I know how my whole life would be judged?

Just wanted to make sure you were ignoring me and didn't just miss my reply

I'm so sorry Missy I did miss that! Here I was waiting patiently for it!

It is absolutely not the case that a psychopath could claim forgiveness and then do anything bad and be forgiven. I think that must be in frost gods realm. As soon as you do bad you separate yourself from God. Hell is yours, until you can reconcile yourself again.

Unlike in this world, ultimate justice cannot be fooled.

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Taking into account both of these quotes by you, please answer me this. If you committed adultery (which does happen to non psychopaths),and you would continue through your life unrepentant
--even for just a day-- and died in a car accident: you would or would not expect to go to hell? You broke one of the ten commandments and died before repenting, after all.
Aren't you afraid of dying before repenting? Or do you just think that since you were a good person who lead a good life, god would just look over your sin and give you a free pass?

[fr0d0]

Personally Missy, I wouldn't give a flying. Correctly, my non repentance, to the woman and/ or to a deity, should I have one, would be hindering my life/ separating me from life (God).

I'd be causing my own suffering immediately. No need to think about the theoretical after life, plenty reason to set things straight in the real world, don't you think.

I nor anyone else gets to evade justice. More so when factoring in perfect justice. I have that. You don't. It seems like you're the one with the problem. How do you cope with the injustice? It's reality. It bites. There's no logical solution... It's just not fair. Do you just have to harden yourself against it? Are you building walls?