Unforgivable Sin

[KUSA]

He is a baby killer. You worship a baby killer. Shame on you.

He doesn't kill babies. He created the world and thus, nature. He does not interfere but rather lets nature take it's course. I hope that clears up any confusion.

~ Miss Meng

How dumb are you? You don't clear up confusion you create it.

[Chad32]

Why he'd even feel the need to punish someone for the crime of others is beyond me. We usually consider those kinds of people villains.

[*Deidre*]

My question is, why in the Bible, does Jesus instruct his followers to forgive 70x7 (I'm going by memory) ...meaning, ALWAYS forgive your 'enemy,' etc. But, God sends those who 'disobey' to hell for all eternity?

''Do as I say, not as I do.'' Think that ''Gospel'' chapter stating that lil tidbit, was removed from the Bible, along with the Gnostic gospels.

[Godscreated]

Who taught you that stuff, you should have studied when you were in church. I didn't study at church. I listed to the teacher and pastor. That's why it took so long to shed christianity.

GC

You don't think blasphemy is an unforgivable sin, or that pride is the worst vice?

You need to correct what you posted, I did not say any of that crap after the first sentence.
I didn't say blasphemy was or wasn't an unforgivable sin, you are defining blasphemy as you see it and not what scripture says, that's why you should have studied in church, at home and anytime you had a chance.

I've seen your definition of pride that you consider sin, again you should have studied, the pride God considers sinful is far different than what you understand.

PS you can't shed what you never had,

GC

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I'm glad you told us that Yahweh/Jesus is good. I need to be reminded every once in a while, since the bible doesn't portray them as very good, just, loving, or merciful.

How would you know you never read or studied the scriptures, by your own admission.

GC

[fr0d0]

My question is, why in the Bible, does Jesus instruct his followers to forgive 70x7 (I'm going by memory) ...meaning, ALWAYS forgive your 'enemy,' etc. But, God sends those who 'disobey' to hell for all eternity?

Hey Deirdre, nice to meet you.

God always forgives everyone unreservedly. People refuse to accept it is all.

A little held belief I confess, but people only stay in hell as long as they resist.

[Rahul]

I did not realize there was such a thing as unforgivable sin - blasphemy. Do you think this is a 1 way ticket to Hell?

Whoa, guys. This is an interesting question.

The dreaded "Unforgivable Sin" is different (surprise!) depending on what religious group you ask.

For the Southern Baptist group I was raised with the unforgivable sin was not accepting Christ as your personal savior. Anything could be forgiven, even blasphemy of any kind, if you accepted Jesus.

I was led to believe for Catholics (Please any former Catholics correct me), the unforgivable sin was suicide. Because you couldn't tell the priest and say hail marys I guess.

Can we maybe come up with a list for what the "Unforgivable Sin" is for which denominations?

[Chad32]

“I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29 (CEV)

It's definitely in the bible.

[Rahul]

“I promise you that any of the sinful things you say or do can be forgiven, no matter how terrible those things are. But if you speak against the Holy Spirit, you can never be forgiven. That sin will be held against you forever.” — Mark 3:28-29 (CEV)

It's definitely in the bible.

I'm not talking about what the bible says. I'm talking about what denominations believe.

After I got out of my religion it was a shock to learn how much every denomination creates certain ideas not backed up by the bible.

Like little ones going to heaven if they die. I have yet to be made aware that if a 6 month old baby dies that it will not go to hell according to biblical scripture. But all denominations seem to believe babies that die go to heaven.

[Chad32]

No matter what your beliefs, you can find some interpretation of the bible to verify it. Other denominations, or just individuals, may disagree. It's a very confusing book, and you'd think the creator of all things would make it easier to figure out exactly what it wants besides just telling it how cool it is. Though that is the most important part, above anything else.

[*Deidre*]

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My question is, why in the Bible, does Jesus instruct his followers to forgive 70x7 (I'm going by memory) ...meaning, ALWAYS forgive your 'enemy,' etc. But, God sends those who 'disobey' to hell for all eternity?

Hey Deirdre, nice to meet you.

Likewise. :=) Nice to meet you.

God always forgives everyone unreservedly. People refuse to accept it is all.

When I followed Christianity, I believed that we all struggle between a carnal nature, and a spiritual one. Flesh vs spirit, so to speak.

Now, I don't believe that. I do believe though, that people struggle with everyday decisions, right vs wrong, etc. That said, I believe now that if a god exists, perhaps he doesn't expect all this worshipping as Christianity would cause us to think. I think that it's our human nature that feels we should be bowing down and ''worshipping'' a Deity. That a Deity requires us to always be asking for favor and forgiveness. How do you know that this is what God even wants? Because 'the Bible says?'

A little held belief I confess, but people only stay in hell as long as they resist.

As a Christian, one believes that once one enters hell after death, that's it. They're there forevaaaa!

I don't believe in heaven and hell, and didn't believe in those 'concepts' even as a Christian.

May I ask, why do you believe in hell? And does this belief cause you even in the slightest, to keep you staying faithful to a god? (God)

I think religion breeds fear. Hell is a fear tactic (to me) created by man. Not all religions support heaven and hell, though. This is a common tenet of the Abrahamic faiths, and all 'versions' depict heaven and hell a little differently.