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Modern philosophy and ancient religion
#11
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I can use Google too. However, one must know what these terms actually mean before you make yourself look stupid.

I don't mind looking stupid if it gets people to think beyond religion and science.

I am just an old atheist with dementia being mocked by you youngsters.
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#12
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 19, 2014 at 6:26 pm)kalicarmas Wrote:
(March 19, 2014 at 4:40 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I can use Google too. However, one must know what these terms actually mean before you make yourself look stupid.

I don't mind looking stupid if it gets people to think beyond religion and science.

I am just an old atheist with dementia being mocked by you youngsters.

Well that really sucks, I'm sorry that you are so afflicted! Discussions get a bit intense here due to the large amount of woo and apologetics we have to wade through, so the tolerance for out there stuff which is hard to tell from nonsense tends to be low. But if you believe your idea is worthwile but misunderstood, by all means, keep defending it
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#13
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 19, 2014 at 6:26 pm)kalicarmas Wrote: I don't mind looking stupid if it gets people to think beyond religion and science.

People do that all the time though. My point was you just seemed to have Googled a few philosophical terms or quotable quips and dumped them here without apparent regard for what they mean or if they were true. To say science rejects the existence of the subconscious is flat out false, for example.


Regardless, I certainly support the aim of spreading one's exploritory horizons. Smile

Quote:I am just an old atheist with dementia being mocked by you youngsters.

...Okay, that sucks. Not sure of the relevance though. :l
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#14
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 19, 2014 at 1:46 pm)kalicarmas Wrote: Science, physics, or physicalism is a philosophy or faith where you believe everything is physical including mind and subconscious.

Some counter philosophies are Dualism, Subjectivism, Solipsism, and Empiricism as opposed to Rationalism.
So fucking what?
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#15
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 19, 2014 at 9:05 am)kalicarmas Wrote: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Qualia is another name for soul.

Subconscious is another name for god.

Scientists can’t measure qualia or the subconscious so they deny them.

Subconscious is another name for god? That could very well be the most authentic way to view 'god.'

Science doesn't need to measure it. But, many feel the need to dub things as 'supernatural' that can't be measured, or that they don't understand. It's ok to say...''I don't know.'' Conjuring up a god because a person is too uncomfortable with the words ''I don't know'' ...is largely how religions became what they are.

During the Paleolithic time period, a quasi-religion if you will, began called shamanism (people practiced an altered state of consciousness). Even back then, man was reaching for something to grab onto, to make sense of what he didn't yet know, or understand about his surroundings. Or even about himself.

Nothing new, really.
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#16
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 19, 2014 at 9:05 am)kalicarmas Wrote: "A rose by any other name would smell as sweet"

Qualia is another name for soul.

Subconscious is another name for god.

Scientists can’t measure qualia or the subconscious so they deny them.

this is not true.

Some may, but I wouldn't count them as reasonable scientist. No more than I would count a person that kills in the name of christ as a reasonable christian.

wow the lack of understanding runs deep here at this site.
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#17
RE: Modern philosophy and ancient religion
(March 31, 2014 at 7:37 am)archangle Wrote: wow the lack of understanding runs deep here at this site.

So, apparently, does the lack of spelling.
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