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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 5:56 pm
(April 14, 2014 at 12:52 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 7:13 am)tor Wrote: Revelation I asked a question. Does Bertrand Russel burn in hell right now? Probably. After all, he was an atheist and most likely confined his loves and thoughts to the things of the material world.
See, this is where it all falls down. Russell, with his almost incalculable contributions to human thought (maths, logic, philosophy), his steadfast opposition to totalitarianism and violence, his concern for the dignity and welfare of human beings, is burning in hell. Torquemada, on the other hand, played by the rules and - according to those rules - is seated at the feet of God.
The technical term for this position, unless I'm very much mistake, is 'an utter crock of shit.'
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 8:01 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 5:52 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I'd love to see all of you get saved so we can enjoy heaven together and perhaps sweet fellowship here on earth.
Don't hold your breath. Or, on reflection, do hold your breath. 'Cos that ain't happening. Just what are we being saved from, exactly? And regardless, part of the deal is that the 'saved' élite get to "enjoy heaven" at the expense of the 'unsaved', including friends and family. Any version of me that has to do that isn't going to be a me that anyone would recognise, nor would it be one that I would want to spend any time at all with. In fact, I'd be ashamed and disgusted to be that person.
I'd much prefer to make a heaven right here on Earth.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 8:36 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I'm surprised you are judging me on a moral standard? Base on who? Or on what? Who sets it if there is no God?
Okay, now I'm starting to feel as frustrated as the others are with you. Not only did you continue to dodge my question, but you're still asking these insulting "where do you get your morality?" questions, despite the fact that I answered them the last two times you asked that. There has literally not been a time that you have asked this moral question, that I have not answered it with a proper solution based in situational ethics.
The fact that you continue to ask the question tells me that you either aren't reading what I'm writing (frustrating on its own) or you're ignoring it in favor of repeating your frankly disgusting talking points, and neither of those particularly engenders positive feelings about how seriously you're taking all this.
So, fine, if you want to be disrespectful, I've got no reason to hold back anymore: you say you get your morality from god, but that literally can't be true, because god is only ever okay with slavery, and you're not, I assume. Since at least some of your moral positions break away from what god thinks on certain issues, you're clearly using some standard apart from god to determine your morality, and I submit to you that this is the same one that I've been telling you about, if you had been paying attention.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 8:38 pm
Quote:I'd love to see all of you get saved so we can enjoy heaven together and perhaps sweet fellowship here on earth.
Fuck. If you were there it would need to re-work its admissions policy.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 8:44 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (April 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: I'm surprised you are judging me on a moral standard? Base on who? Or on what? Who sets it if there is no God?
Okay, now I'm starting to feel as frustrated as the others are with you. Not only did you continue to dodge my question, but you're still asking these insulting "where do you get your morality?" questions, despite the fact that I answered them the last two times you asked that. There has literally not been a time that you have asked this moral question, that I have not answered it with a proper solution based in situational ethics.
The fact that you continue to ask the question tells me that you either aren't reading what I'm writing (frustrating on its own) or you're ignoring it in favor of repeating your frankly disgusting talking points, and neither of those particularly engenders positive feelings about how seriously you're taking all this.
So, fine, if you want to be disrespectful, I've got no reason to hold back anymore: you say you get your morality from god, but that literally can't be true, because god is only ever okay with slavery, and you're not, I assume. Since at least some of your moral positions break away from what god thinks on certain issues, you're clearly using some standard apart from god to determine your morality, and I submit to you that this is the same one that I've been telling you about, if you had been paying attention.
They always seem to forget that the average human is far more moral than their deity.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 9:10 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 8:44 pm)Beccs Wrote: (April 15, 2014 at 8:36 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Okay, now I'm starting to feel as frustrated as the others are with you. Not only did you continue to dodge my question, but you're still asking these insulting "where do you get your morality?" questions, despite the fact that I answered them the last two times you asked that. There has literally not been a time that you have asked this moral question, that I have not answered it with a proper solution based in situational ethics.
The fact that you continue to ask the question tells me that you either aren't reading what I'm writing (frustrating on its own) or you're ignoring it in favor of repeating your frankly disgusting talking points, and neither of those particularly engenders positive feelings about how seriously you're taking all this.
So, fine, if you want to be disrespectful, I've got no reason to hold back anymore: you say you get your morality from god, but that literally can't be true, because god is only ever okay with slavery, and you're not, I assume. Since at least some of your moral positions break away from what god thinks on certain issues, you're clearly using some standard apart from god to determine your morality, and I submit to you that this is the same one that I've been telling you about, if you had been paying attention.
They always seem to forget that the average human is far more moral than their deity.
That is because a propaganda-spouting robot like the one above, has no sense of morality.
It is a strict authoritarian construct. There is no moral component to authoritarianism. It is just about absolute obedience.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 9:13 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 8:44 pm)Beccs Wrote: They always seem to forget that the average human is far more moral than their deity.
They don't forget, they just live in a fantasy world where christianity is the only religion, and it isn't predated by any of the moral ideals it later stole to compose the moral standards that we apparently just can't have without god.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 9:47 pm
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(April 15, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Revelation777 Wrote: (April 14, 2014 at 4:55 pm)Aral Gamelon Wrote: So that makes it ok for him to be tortured for eternity does it? Talk about moral bankruptcy.
It appears God may of made a place for those who really want nothing to do with Him.
First of all;
May HAVE goddammit how many times have you been corrected on this?
Secondly;
Why is it ok with you that your god would burn people in hellfire for doubting that he exists? Since there is no way for us, so far, to measure or verify his existence the motherfucker is playing cosmological peekaboo.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 9:52 pm
Now you did it, Rev. I think Aral is gonna damn you to bad grammar hell.
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RE: Why It Is Not Too Late To Repent And Turn To Christ
April 15, 2014 at 9:56 pm
(April 15, 2014 at 9:52 pm)whateverist Wrote: Now you did it, Rev. I think Aral is gonna damn you to bad grammar hell.
It's a real place.
Fortunately, if you give yourself to Good-Grammar Jesus and ask for HIS forgiveness, HE will let you into Good Grammar Heaven.
Repent now, Rev.
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