(June 12, 2014 at 9:52 pm)JuliaL Wrote: Sure cats kill because they want to. Think gun nut but with teeth.
First demonstrate comparable intelligence to humans before anthropomorphizing.
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My Roommate's Cat Just Killed a Bird
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 First demonstrate comparable intelligence to humans before anthropomorphizing.  (June 12, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Stimbo Wrote: No, not evil. Just cat. For instance, they only use their meow, apparently, to communicate with us, mimicking human baby cries. They don't do it amongst themselves. They're very good with the bigeyes, “look how cute I am“ stuff. And we fall for it! I don't fall for it. I sense the evil a cat radiates the second I enter a room. ***shudder
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 RE: My Roommate's Cat Just Killed a Bird
June 14, 2014 at 7:18 am
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(June 12, 2014 at 5:13 pm)Stimbo Wrote: No, not evil. Just cat. For instance, they only use their meow, apparently, to communicate with us, mimicking human baby cries. They don't do it amongst themselves. They're very good with the bigeyes, “look how cute I am“ stuff. And we fall for it! Mother cat and kittens communicate with meows. Just sayin'. (June 12, 2014 at 9:06 pm)Broseph Ballin Wrote: ... There's the sweet, innocent side, which is what everyone loves about them, this includes their good looks and funny behaviours. On the other side, you have an evil, sadistic murderer that kills without remorse, and probably takes a lot of pleasure in doing so. ... Sounds like my ex. ![[Image: coffeedrinker.gif]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.acbeddoe.com%2Fphotos%2Fpublic%2Fcoffeedrinker.gif) 
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What you've stumbled into there is the kitten not knowing any better and the mother mewing back in the only way her child knows, saying “shush dear, you'll make the humans suspicious.“
Don't let the cats know that you know, basically.
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I like and appreciate cats but I don't condone letting them roam around outside where they can decimate the bird population. (Funny but I'm completely unfazed by their impact on rodents.) If a bell doesn't do it you have to choose between making the cat happy and doing the right thing. (I like birds too.)
 (June 12, 2014 at 9:57 pm)Moros Synackaon Wrote:(June 12, 2014 at 9:52 pm)JuliaL Wrote: Sure cats kill because they want to. Think gun nut but with teeth. Why?
So how, exactly, does God know that She's NOT a brain in a vat?
(June 14, 2014 at 11:25 am)JuliaL Wrote: Why? Because what can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence. You have asserted that cats make conscious choices. Now prove to me that they make conscious choices similar to that of humans as your analogy is highly dependent upon that relation. Slave to the Patriarchy no more
 (June 14, 2014 at 9:32 am)whateverist Wrote: I like and appreciate cats but I don't condone letting them roam around outside where they can decimate the bird population. (Funny but I'm completely unfazed by their impact on rodents.) If a bell doesn't do it you have to choose between making the cat happy and doing the right thing. (I like birds too.) It's not just about making her happy, though. My cat has been climbing screen doors and windows since she was a tiny kitten. She will, like I've said now a few times, literally rip my house to shreds... and she doesn't kill things. She actually hangs out on the back porch, and rarely wanders. It's the other cat who (rarely) kills things, and I refuse to let my house get ripped to shreds for three or four small animals. (June 14, 2014 at 5:25 pm)rexbeccarox Wrote:(June 14, 2014 at 9:32 am)whateverist Wrote: I like and appreciate cats but I don't condone letting them roam around outside where they can decimate the bird population. (Funny but I'm completely unfazed by their impact on rodents.) If a bell doesn't do it you have to choose between making the cat happy and doing the right thing. (I like birds too.) Sounds like you know your cat well. I'd let a cat outside if it wasn't destructive. My brother's cat lives in doors but will go outside when they do sometimes. It sticks around mostly because it is old and the neighbor's cats would kick its ass if it jumped the fence. |
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