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August 9, 2014 at 8:52 am
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(August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: (August 7, 2014 at 8:52 am)Cato Wrote: Your revelation book is quite clear regarding the existence of light on Earth existing before the creation of the sun and other stars. The book of nature says otherwise. Where's the interpretive error here? before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Day 1 (epoch of time) starts with 'let there be light'. until then, the earth atmosphere zone was opaque due to the sun's disk of dust and other materials. after some time, gravity had pulled this material sufficiently together to form the earth which changed the earth's atmosphere zone to translucent allowing the sun light to reach the earth's surface.
Electromagnetic radiation was brought into the cosmos 13 billion years ago.
WTF? The earth atmosphere zone? You should realize that the earth moves relative to the sun, relative to our galaxy's axis of rotation, relative to the center of the big bang, and gawd only knows in what other ways. It would be interesting to see an artist's rendition of the locations inhabited by the earth's atmosphere since the formation of our solar system. But even my over-active imagination cannot make any sense of "earth atmosphere zone" before the solar system existed. You are much, much better at this than I.
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August 9, 2014 at 12:37 pm
Great contribution there monkey! Such relevance!
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
August 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Day 1 (epoch of time) starts with 'let there be light'. ...
Wait. Two pages ago, you were going on about the cosmological argument, and now you're okay with a beginning of time? You just brought up one of the theories on how the universe could exist with no cause. Why, exactly, does your universe require a creator, again?
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August 9, 2014 at 2:48 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: (August 7, 2014 at 8:52 am)Cato Wrote: Your revelation book is quite clear regarding the existence of light on Earth existing before the creation of the sun and other stars. The book of nature says otherwise. Where's the interpretive error here? before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Day 1 (epoch of time) starts with 'let there be light'.
And then on the fourth day, he created the sun a second time.
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August 9, 2014 at 3:02 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 1:29 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Day 1 (epoch of time) starts with 'let there be light'. ...
Wait. Two pages ago, you were going on about the cosmological argument, and now you're okay with a beginning of time? You just brought up one of the theories on how the universe could exist with no cause. Why, exactly, does your universe require a creator, again?
... Because he's just making shit up as he goes along without a care for internal consistency?
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August 9, 2014 at 6:30 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 2:48 pm)rasetsu Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Day 1 (epoch of time) starts with 'let there be light'.
And then on the fourth day, he created the sun a second time.
Must have kept going out. Fucking cheap ass celestial candles.
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August 9, 2014 at 7:05 pm
Probably made in the pakistani atmospheric zone.
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August 9, 2014 at 8:45 pm
(August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Before day 1, there is no Earth.
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RE: Where did the universe come from? Atheistic origin science has no answer.
August 9, 2014 at 10:44 pm
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(August 9, 2014 at 2:48 pm)rasetsu Wrote: (August 9, 2014 at 2:16 am)snowtracks Wrote: before genesis day 1, the frame of reference for the narrative is the earth's surface. Day 1 (epoch of time) starts with 'let there be light'.
And then on the fourth day, he created the sun a second time. by day 4, there were enough environmental changes to the bring about changes to the earth's atmosphere such as reduced volcanic activity, reduction in carbon dioxide and water vapor from plant grow. the atmosphere emerge from a translucent state to transparent. with the heavy overcast cloud cover now breaking up, the Sun, moon, stars became visible to creatures on the earth's surface.
(August 9, 2014 at 12:37 pm)Bad Wolf Wrote: Great contribution there monkey! Such relevance! hardly. "Day 1 (epoch of time)".
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