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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
August 31, 2014 at 5:32 pm
(August 31, 2014 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: hominids were spread out but not around the world. whereas, hss were confined to the local flood area.
You do realize that there has never been a time that hss existed that it has not existed in Africa, don't you?
Whatever. Are you going to answer Stimbo's question about the mechanisms and processes of special creation? If not, you don't have an explanation.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
August 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm
(August 31, 2014 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: when hss came on the scene, advanced human culture appeared suddenly. the technology and culture displayed indicated that they were significantly superior to hominids who possessed some semblance of culture and relatively simplistic technology such as the hand axe which was basically unchanged for 2 million years( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_axe#Hi...stribution). the hss culture shows a quantum leap in cognitive capabilities (including symbolic thought), craftsmanship, inventiveness, and an artistic flair that the grunt brain hominid's didn't. this was the 'big bang' of human culture. from a Christian perspective, this was the result of a new type of creature (hss) that is endowed with a spirit, one made in God's image. neanderthals and other homo sapiens were simply bipedal primates, possessed limited intelligence with some type of culture but animals nevertheless. only hss possess a spirit and hence are held accountable for morality; the flood was a judgment against immorality.
hominids were spread out but not around the world. whereas, hss were confined to the local flood area.
You do realize recent re-dating of many Paleolithic cave art show some likely predated the arrival of HSS, and therefore must have been drawn by Neanderthals, right? You are also aware there is some evidence the oldest musical instruments in the world yet discovered was purposely made bone flute made before the arrival of HSS?
So apparently soulless Neanderthals without spirit drew pictures and made music because they didn't have symbolic thinking and made no cultural advances.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am
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(August 31, 2014 at 6:12 pm)Chuck Wrote: (August 31, 2014 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: when hss came on the scene, advanced human culture appeared suddenly. the technology and culture displayed indicated that they were significantly superior to hominids who possessed some semblance of culture and relatively simplistic technology such as the hand axe which was basically unchanged for 2 million years( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_axe#Hi...stribution). the hss culture shows a quantum leap in cognitive capabilities (including symbolic thought), craftsmanship, inventiveness, and an artistic flair that the grunt brain hominid's didn't. this was the 'big bang' of human culture. from a Christian perspective, this was the result of a new type of creature (hss) that is endowed with a spirit, one made in God's image. neanderthals and other homo sapiens were simply bipedal primates, possessed limited intelligence with some type of culture but animals nevertheless. only hss possess a spirit and hence are held accountable for morality; the flood was a judgment against immorality.
hominids were spread out but not around the world. whereas, hss were confined to the local flood area.
You do realize recent re-dating of many Paleolithic cave art show some likely predated the arrival of HSS, and therefore must have been drawn by Neanderthals, right? You are also aware there is some evidence the oldest musical instruments in the world yet discovered was purposely made bone flute made before the arrival of HSS?
So apparently soulless Neanderthals without spirit drew pictures and made music because they didn't have symbolic thinking and made no cultural advances. the oldest cave art I'm familiar is some 35 tya in Europe which is about the time Neanderthals went extinct. but whatever, they might have been capable of some art. wouldn't be surprising if a monkey could execute some crude drawings. after all, birds use tools..
https://images.search.yahoo.com/search/i...sing+tools also, could be neanderthals came upon previously occupied human caves.
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think to might be referring to Neanderthal flute which is a femur with four holes on one side. that particular item if memory serves, an analysis stated the holes appear to have been caused by a carnivore.
(August 31, 2014 at 9:06 am)Bad Wolf Wrote: Snowy, how long ago do you think the flood happened? and how long ago do you think there were other bipedal hominids sharing the planet with humans? humans perhaps started 80 - 50 tya, neanderthals (closest in appearance to modern humans (hss)) lived something like between 200 - 35 tya. Noah's flood, est. 40 - 35 tya.
term 'transitional intermediate' is oftentimes used by evolutionist as the entire collection of specimens between end points. under this definition, hominids existing between an ape like creatures that existed roughly 6 mya to hss like neanderthals are classified under that term - the hope is that future discovery will provide the necessary scientific evidence; that definition is not nearly stringent enough to move evolution from a theory to fact.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 6, 2014 at 2:32 am
(September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: that definition is not nearly stringent enough to move evolution from a theory to fact.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 6, 2014 at 8:28 am
(September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: humans perhaps started 80 - 50 tya,
Where did you get that number from?
(September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: neanderthals (closest in appearance to modern humans (hss)) lived something like between 200 - 35 tya.
This one sounds right, but I would still like to know where you got that number from.
(September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: Noah's flood, est. 40 - 35 tya.
Definitely want to know how you worked that out.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 6, 2014 at 9:33 am
(September 6, 2014 at 1:33 am)snowtracks Wrote: term 'transitional intermediate' is oftentimes used by evolutionist as the entire collection of specimens between end points. under this definition, hominids existing between an ape like creatures that existed roughly 6 mya to hss like neanderthals are classified under that term - the hope is that future discovery will provide the necessary scientific evidence; that definition is not nearly stringent enough to move evolution from a theory to fact.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 6, 2014 at 7:01 pm
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 17, 2014 at 12:09 am
(August 31, 2014 at 5:32 pm)rasetsu Wrote: (August 31, 2014 at 1:57 am)snowtracks Wrote: hominids were spread out but not around the world. whereas, hss were confined to the local flood area.
You do realize that there has never been a time that hss existed that it has not existed in Africa, don't you?
genesis describes the places from which four rivers flow out, each of which is a mesopotamian location. Later hss (define as modern humans, and biblical described here as being created in God image) were banned from the garden and possibly migrated into africa. anthropology studies currently are underway in that area. http://www.livescience.com/10340-lost-ci...-gulf.html
The garden could be located at the bottom of the persian gulf.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 17, 2014 at 12:31 am
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Quote:when hss came on the scene, advanced human culture appeared suddenly.
There's a 150k year gap between our appearance (in africa) and behavioral modernity. How very sudden indeed.
Quote:the technology and culture displayed indicated that they were significantly superior to hominids who possessed some semblance of culture and relatively simplistic technology such as the hand axe which was basically unchanged for 2 million years
-if it aint broke...don't fix it. Ever made a handaxe? When you have one in your hands you can see why we used them for so long. Things are boss.
Quote:only hss possess a spirit and hence are held accountable for morality; the flood was a judgment against immorality.
Right, which didn't touch any of the HSS spread out elsewhere on the globe (or anyone, of course, since it never happened)
Quote:hss were confined to the local flood area.
Nope. Look, you're the one who set the date, at least -try- man.....
"The Garden", btw, is located between the covers of a book, and in the vacuous space between some of our ears Tracks. You didn't actually read that link you posted, did you? Pop quiz, when was that landmass submerged?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
September 17, 2014 at 11:36 am
(September 17, 2014 at 12:09 am)snowtracks Wrote: The garden could be located at the bottom of the persian gulf.
Ok - now we have something testable. All you have to do now is mount an expedition to the site and look for cherubim guarding the eastern approach to a garden and a flaming sword dashing about, protecting a tree. Then we'll know it's probably the right area.
In the meantime, how about answering my question? A thing you've been asked several times now. I'm allergic to roseate seafood.
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