Can you love on command?

[Drich]

What you have failed to account for in the op. Is that for Christ the word love did not exist. Noe was their any one singular all encompassing word to describe all 'love.' No the Greeks had five different words that describe what we would considered different aspects of the word love. 4 are used in the bible

There was
Agape, or the type of love we are to have for God, which btw is the word Jesus was using in the passage you quoted. This for. Of love is based in fear and respect.

We are commanded to give God agape. This type of love is something we can indeed provide on demand.

How does one fear and respect what is not here except in the imaginations of people like you?

Fear is generated by man against what can harm him. Man cannot respect in the way you mean what can harm him. Hate is more like what we think of what can harm us.

Esoterically speaking, that is why God hated Esau even before he could do good or evil. He represented change and your God and church, as shown by the Inquisition and laws against reading the bible, --- show how Christians are just idol worshipers.

Regards
DL

Define love.. Your whole arguement hinges on this defination. That word does not mean what you think it does.

[paulpablo]

What you have failed to account for in the op. Is that for Christ the word love did not exist. Noe was their any one singular all encompassing word to describe all 'love.' No the Greeks had five different words that describe what we would considered different aspects of the word love. 4 are used in the bible

There was
Agape, or the type of love we are to have for God, which btw is the word Jesus was using in the passage you quoted. This for. Of love is based in fear and respect.

We are commanded to give God agape. This type of love is something we can indeed provide on demand.

How does one fear and respect what is not here except in the imaginations of people like you?

Fear is generated by man against what can harm him. Man cannot respect in the way you mean what can harm him. Hate is more like what we think of what can harm us.

Esoterically speaking, that is why God hated Esau even before he could do good or evil. He represented change and your God and church, as shown by the Inquisition and laws against reading the bible, --- show how Christians are just idol worshipers.

Regards
DL

It's not always true that fear is generated by man against what can harm him. It's generated by both sexes of many animals and not just by what can harm them, think about horror films and stuff.

[Greatest I am]

How does one fear and respect what is not here except in the imaginations of people like you?

Fear is generated by man against what can harm him. Man cannot respect in the way you mean what can harm him. Hate is more like what we think of what can harm us.

Esoterically speaking, that is why God hated Esau even before he could do good or evil. He represented change and your God and church, as shown by the Inquisition and laws against reading the bible, --- show how Christians are just idol worshipers.

Regards
DL

It's not always true that fear is generated by man against what can harm him. It's generated by both sexes of many animals and not just by what can harm them, think about horror films and stuff.

Ok. I did.

Why do you think we like horror films?

Why do we flinch say when two cars collide?

It is because we are injecting ourselves into the characters or internalizing the film and placing ourselves into the action.

That is us, in the scenario given, showing our fear to having a car crash. Have you never seen such a scene and said, God I am glad that was not me, (in reality is understood).

See it?

Regards
DL

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How does one fear and respect what is not here except in the imaginations of people like you?

Fear is generated by man against what can harm him. Man cannot respect in the way you mean what can harm him. Hate is more like what we think of what can harm us.

Esoterically speaking, that is why God hated Esau even before he could do good or evil. He represented change and your God and church, as shown by the Inquisition and laws against reading the bible, --- show how Christians are just idol worshipers.

Regards
DL

Define love.. Your whole arguement hinges on this defination. That word does not mean what you think it does.

Define the groundless hate God felt for Esau.

You are adding a definition to the word love that is not shown in the dialog and your own bible says that we are not to add or subtract from it.

Regards
DL

[Drich]

It's not always true that fear is generated by man against what can harm him. It's generated by both sexes of many animals and not just by what can harm them, think about horror films and stuff.

Ok. I did.

Why do you think we like horror films?

Why do we flinch say when two cars collide?

It is because we are injecting ourselves into the characters or internalizing the film and placing ourselves into the action.

That is us, in the scenario given, showing our fear to having a car crash. Have you never seen such a scene and said, God I am glad that was not me, (in reality is understood).

See it?

Regards
DL

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Define love.. Your whole arguement hinges on this defination. That word does not mean what you think it does.

Define the groundless hate God felt for Esau.

You are adding a definition to the word love that is not shown in the dialog and your own bible says that we are not to add or subtract from it.

Regards
DL

Quid pro quoe clareese quid pro quoe.

I asked you to define love, if you wish our dialog to continue you need to answer my request.

[Losty]

I like you when you're bossy

[paulpablo]

Ok. I did.

Why do you think we like horror films?

Why do we flinch say when two cars collide?

It is because we are injecting ourselves into the characters or internalizing the film and placing ourselves into the action.

That is us, in the scenario given, showing our fear to having a car crash. Have you never seen such a scene and said, God I am glad that was not me, (in reality is understood).

See it?

I think people like horror films because they're interesting to watch.
Yes people do imagine themselves being a part of the film, so that just proves that people can fear things that they imagine.

So when you said

How does one fear and respect what is not here except in the imaginations of people like you?

Fear is generated by man against what can harm him. Man cannot respect in the way you mean what can harm him. Hate is more like what we think of what can harm us.

I say that fear is not always generated by man against what can harm him, it sometimes is generated by what a man or woman imagines can happen to them, reality is not a prime requisite for generating fear.

[psychoslice]

This is true, that love cannot be commanded, but one who doesn't know love must start from somewhere. Its sort of like obeying the road rules, such as stopping at a red light, we lean that rule when we are just starting to drive a car, but what is more important than the rule is, that we don't go through a red light because we could kill someone or ourselves, this realization is above the law.

I would just say that it is a law that one has taken and written in our hearts.

I don't think I would say that that is above the law but I think we are on the same page and have no need to discuss the semantics of language.

We agree that the spirit of the law should be taught as well as the letter of it.

Regards
DL

Yes just like parables, if one is ready to receive what is at the heat of the parable, then that is what they will find within the parable. This is the same as the letter of scripture, its either you will stay with the husk or the outside letter, or you will realize the truth that is found within the kernel of the word.

[Greatest I am]

Ok. I did.

Why do you think we like horror films?

Why do we flinch say when two cars collide?

It is because we are injecting ourselves into the characters or internalizing the film and placing ourselves into the action.

That is us, in the scenario given, showing our fear to having a car crash. Have you never seen such a scene and said, God I am glad that was not me, (in reality is understood).

See it?

Regards
DL

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Define the groundless hate God felt for Esau.

You are adding a definition to the word love that is not shown in the dialog and your own bible says that we are not to add or subtract from it.

Regards
DL

Quid pro quoe clareese quid pro quoe.

I asked you to define love, if you wish our dialog to continue you need to answer my request.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekLHvB6XOQg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSGl3d4KOMk

Your genocidal son murdering God cannot love as all he wants is slaves.

Read your bible where it says we are to be slaves to sin or slaves to God. No other options except slavery.

No wonder you need others to tell you what love is all about.

Your religion has corrupted your morals and your ability to reason.

Regards
DL

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I say that fear is not always generated by man against what can harm him, it sometimes is generated by what a man or woman imagines can happen to them, reality is not a prime requisite for generating fear.

I agree. It is all in the perception.

Regards
DL

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Yes just like parables, if one is ready to receive what is at the heat of the parable, then that is what they will find within the parable. This is the same as the letter of scripture, its either you will stay with the husk or the outside letter, or you will realize the truth that is found within the kernel of the word.

Well put.

Regards
DL

[theophilus]

I had a quick look at two of those sites (thanks for posting them), and they seem to fall into the 'you can change or abstain' category, which is what I expected. So those people don't really love gay people per se, thay just want them to stop being gay, which is not the same thing.

Loving someone means that we do not want them to live in a way that will be harmful to them. God has laws that we are all required to obey. We must warn people not to violate those laws and if they have done so we must tell them how to obtain God's forgiveness. We are to treat everyone this way, not just gay people.

Our objective regarding gay people isn't to stop them from being gay.

http://christiananswers.net/q-cross/cros...hange.html

[Greatest I am]

I had a quick look at two of those sites (thanks for posting them), and they seem to fall into the 'you can change or abstain' category, which is what I expected. So those people don't really love gay people per se, thay just want them to stop being gay, which is not the same thing.

Loving someone means that we do not want them to live in a way that will be harmful to them. God has laws that we are all required to obey. We must warn people not to violate those laws and if they have done so we must tell them how to obtain God's forgiveness. We are to treat everyone this way, not just gay people.

Our objective regarding gay people isn't to stop them from being gay.

http://christiananswers.net/q-cross/cros...hange.html

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/11/08/m...+Recent%29

You will see a look that that mother gives to her Bishop via camera. That look I give to those of your ilk who preach love while denying it to gays as well as half the planet of women whom your religions demands sit at the back of the bus with the other second class citizens.

You are why literal reading of myths is evil.

Regards
DL