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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 12, 2015 at 8:19 pm
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(January 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone thinks there is a God, some will say ‘there is no God’; human were made in His image, that imprint can’t be erased no matter how hard someone tries.
Why I am posting is: to give the christian old earth perspective. Notice the period at the end of previous sentence. God made the garden-of-eden every good, and then may it even better by introducing ‘free-will’. Think about it, if God gave people free will to choice, I should and do fully endorse the exercise thereof. This is the rare occasion where I get to say "nu-uh" and it actually -is- a competent demonstration of how full of shit you are. Since you were so kind as to include me in your claim. I think the claim that follows is garbage as well. If I had to guess, you're trying to convince -yourself-. Doubter.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 12, 2015 at 9:16 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: (January 11, 2015 at 7:16 pm)Tonus Wrote: Par for the course. At some point it seems that the pure fundie types get flustered enough by our unwillingness to accept presuppositions as "evidence/proof/truth" that they give up trying and start flinging random bits of poo at the wall. Have stated this before, but it may need to be reiterated. Seems like you laboring under the grand illusion (perhaps even delusion) that I’m trying to prove, persuade, cajole or influence board members to believe in God’s existence or change their worldview to a creation model. Only God can prove God which has all ready been done. Everyone thinks there is a God, some will say ‘there is no God’; human were made in His image, that imprint can’t be erased no matter how hard someone tries.
Why I am posting is: to give the christian old earth perspective. Notice the period at the end of previous sentence. God made the garden-of-eden every good, and then may it even better by introducing ‘free-will’. Think about it, if God gave people free will to choice, I should and do fully endorse the exercise thereof. So if there are atheist, so be it. Are you responding to the point I was making, or trying to reinforce it with an example?
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 12, 2015 at 9:17 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone thinks there is a God, some will say ‘there is no God’; I have never believed in a god. No ands, ifs, or buts about it. It is completely illogical that there could be a god.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 12, 2015 at 11:19 pm
(January 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone thinks there is a God, some will say ‘there is no God’; human were made in His image, that imprint can’t be erased no matter how hard someone tries.
Listen, you tall glass of warm shit; I'm done playing nice with this repetitious, condescending, presumptuous argument. You do not get to tell anyone else what they think, you do not get to dictate positions for other people, and you don't get to presume to know more about the interior of my mind than I do. In the past I'd generally respond with some sarcastic quip about when you gained your telepathy, but now I've heard it one too many times from you and I'm done pretending you're anything other than an arrogant little ass with more assertions than common sense. Go fuck yourself.
Now please, do proceed with your response, which I predict will be little more than "ooh, someone's angry," as though merely pointing out that you're such a colossal douche-canoe that someone got mad at you actually counts as a rebuttal, or as though the only reason anyone gets angry is that they secretly agree with you. That shit's super convincing. 
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 13, 2015 at 12:10 am
Do you believe God made bacteria in his image?
My guess is you're too ignorant to deduce what I'm asking. Some of us KNOW that all life on Earth is related. Nevermind apes and monkeys. We're kin to turtles pine trees and Tuna fish. We all come from stars!!! (Still live ya for that one Mobey)
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 17, 2015 at 3:20 am
(January 12, 2015 at 11:19 pm)Esquilax Wrote: (January 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone thinks there is a God, some will say ‘there is no God’; human were made in His image, that imprint can’t be erased no matter how hard someone tries.
Listen, you tall glass of warm shit; I'm done playing nice with this repetitious, condescending, presumptuous argument. You do not get to tell anyone else what they think, you do not get to dictate positions for other people, and you don't get to presume to know more about the interior of my mind than I do. In the past I'd generally respond with some sarcastic quip about when you gained your telepathy, but now I've heard it one too many times from you and I'm done pretending you're anything other than an arrogant little ass with more assertions than common sense. Go fuck yourself.
Now please, do proceed with your response, which I predict will be little more than "ooh, someone's angry," as though merely pointing out that you're such a colossal douche-canoe that someone got mad at you actually counts as a rebuttal, or as though the only reason anyone gets angry is that they secretly agree with you. That shit's super convincing. this one seems to be in a peevish mood about something; or maybe just got up on the wrong-side-of-the-bed.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 17, 2015 at 4:28 am
Maybe if you were told again and again that as a xtian you believed the exact opposite of what you do despite your saying otherwise, you might get a little pissed off occasionally.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 17, 2015 at 6:16 am
(January 17, 2015 at 3:20 am)snowtracks Wrote: (January 12, 2015 at 11:19 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Listen, you tall glass of warm shit; I'm done playing nice with this repetitious, condescending, presumptuous argument. You do not get to tell anyone else what they think, you do not get to dictate positions for other people, and you don't get to presume to know more about the interior of my mind than I do. In the past I'd generally respond with some sarcastic quip about when you gained your telepathy, but now I've heard it one too many times from you and I'm done pretending you're anything other than an arrogant little ass with more assertions than common sense. Go fuck yourself.
Now please, do proceed with your response, which I predict will be little more than "ooh, someone's angry," as though merely pointing out that you're such a colossal douche-canoe that someone got mad at you actually counts as a rebuttal, or as though the only reason anyone gets angry is that they secretly agree with you. That shit's super convincing. this one seems to be in a peevish mood about something; or maybe just got up on the wrong-side-of-the-bed.
And the response was as predicted. Well done.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 17, 2015 at 7:24 am
(January 12, 2015 at 8:16 pm)snowtracks Wrote: Everyone thinks there is a God, some will say ‘there is no God’; human were made in His image, that imprint can’t be erased no matter how hard someone tries.
I do not now nor have I ever believed in any god.
I have seen your line of reasoning before in other deluded people. you really can't imagine a universe that does not include god and project this onto others, you can't imagine how we can't believe, so we must be lying when we say we don't.
It's not your fault you, you are the product of deep brain washing.
But please accept that I am sincere when I say that the concept of god is not required to have a full life.
I went years and years before I discussed and now mainly discuss it on here and that is only because it was shown how amusing theists can be.
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RE: Abiogenesis is impossible
January 17, 2015 at 7:57 am
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Everyone thinks there is a god? Are you serious Snowtracks?
No. I have never thought there is.
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