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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 5:50 pm
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You're speaking about evolution as if it's just an idea that about 9 people on the atheist forum came up with to prove a point, rather than thousands upon thousands of established scientists of all different types of biology, paleontologists and so on all around the world.
I've never actually given much thought to the problem of evil myself as an atheist. I think god can exist with evil, it makes no difference to me.
I don't believe in any religion because everyone of them comes into being with the method of god telling 1 man, then him telling other people.
Social pressure, con artist tricks, word play, laughable scientific miracles, lay line type miracles.
If you actually look at all the con tricks religions use, there's other people that have been using the same tricks for secular reasons or to prove aliens or ghosts and so on.
The religions that don't use any tricks to provide evidence are religions with absolutely no evidence.
I was confused about what the thread was about by the way that's why I've edited this post a lot in just a few seconds, but I got there in the end.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 5:54 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 5:27 pm)Chili Wrote: As I see the difference mutation is DNA only and not RNA caused. This would be why the red potato was an eye mutant as obviously different from the other white potato's of that same plant.
That is why it is called mutation as different from design in which the essence as potato remained just the same. A mutation as a mutation is obviously different and does follow the RNA input for design, from which it can be said that you are what you eat and eat what you are.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 5:54 pm
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Stopped reading when you told us we used evil acts that deities are supposedly responsible for to disprove God.
No, we use evil acts that deities are supposedly responsible for to prove that those said deities are EVIL.
We haven't dis-proven God. To claim that we have is a serious misunderstanding of what Atheism is.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:03 pm
(This post was last modified: January 13, 2015 at 6:10 pm by Chili.)
(January 13, 2015 at 5:48 pm)Rhythm Wrote: -what is the mechanic by which all of this is achieved?
-where do those "representations" source the trait that the breeder is selecting for?
-what is being patented?
-did you plan on answering the question you quoted at some point in the future?
Are you implying, in that last post, that the breeder -thinks really hard about it-....and on the brute force of that thought, it happens? Shit....I've been doing this all wrong, no wonder my costs are through the roof.
That is very simple. For instance, if more milk is desired in cows (because we can sell milk to make a living that way), it would not be very smart to breed a Holstein with Limousine as that would be counter productive for sure. Or similarly, if a work horse is wanted it would not be wise to use a pony on stilts to breed a Belgium. That is quite obvious, I think.
The desired quality is marketable, I suppose, such as milk and butterfat, or show-jumping let's say.
The copyright is there to protect the breeder for his effort in improving what he created to be.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:09 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 6:03 pm)Chili Wrote: That is very simple. For instance, if more milk is desired in cows (because we can sell milk to make a living that way), it would not be very smart to breed a Holstein with Limousine as that would be counter productive for sure. Or similarly, if a work horse is wanted it would not be wise to use a pony in stilts to breed a Belgium. That is quite obvious, I think. -what is the mechanic by which all of this is achieved?
Quote:The copyright is there to protect the breeder for his effort in improving what he created to be.
-what is being patented?
-did you plan on answering the question you quoted at some point in the future?
Obvious trollposter is obvious.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:11 pm
Quote: These acts are exemplified in taking nourishment, growing, reproducing, moving and perceiving. Since these acts do not belong to the nature of bodies, for this nature is devoid of WILL, they must belong to a principle they have other than bodies. This principle is what is called ‘soul’.
I'm really confused by this statement especially.
Eating and having sex are very much the nature of bodies, castration of a human male results in low sex drive or none at all.
Drugs can reduce appetite or increase it .
A human can override natural urges, like hunger and sex, but I think this is done with the brain, rather than the soul.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:12 pm
A pony in stilts to breed a Belgian??
What does that even mean?
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:19 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 6:12 pm)LostLocke Wrote: A pony in stilts to breed a Belgian??
What does that even mean?
It means a pony will need help to get it done. It just means that a work horse should look like a work horse before you begin. This same is true with the Limousine as a beef breed that is just opposite in design then a milk cow should be.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:26 pm
(January 13, 2015 at 6:19 pm)Chili Wrote: (January 13, 2015 at 6:12 pm)LostLocke Wrote: A pony in stilts to breed a Belgian??
What does that even mean?
It means a pony will need help to get it done. It just means that a work horse should look like a work horse before you begin. This same is true with the Limousine as a beef breed that is just opposite in design then a milk cow should be.
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RE: “The Problem of Evil” in atheism and in Islam
January 13, 2015 at 6:28 pm
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Hmn, then I guess we'll just never be able to get anything new, and if we didn't already have a work horse there will never be a workhorse, huh?
-Where did that first workhorse come from, then? Where did all of our agricultural species come from, then? If I don't have any corn already, where am I supposed to get it? If I don't have a tomato already, where am I supposed to get it? If I don't have a potato already, where am I supposed to get it?
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