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The argument of "chance"
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 21, 2015 at 1:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: True. Because God is why mathematics exists in the first place.

Oh look, Old King Assertion is here. Rolleyes
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 1:39 pm
That's not a rebuttal, Chad.

What you engaged in there was a fallacy of proof by assertion. Care to elucidate?
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 1:50 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm)ChadWooters Wrote:
(February 21, 2015 at 1:19 pm)Esquilax Wrote: Oh look, Old King Assertion is here. Rolleyes
Coming from the Dishonest Sophist.

You can ad hom me all you want, doesn't change the fact that all you did was make an assertion, and that this fits a pattern of fiat assertions followed by condescending mockery from you. Continuing the pattern doesn't rebut the claim that it's there.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 2:25 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 1:50 pm)Esquilax Wrote:
(February 21, 2015 at 1:35 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Coming from the Dishonest Sophist.

You can ad hom me all you want, doesn't change the fact that all you did was make an assertion, and that this fits a pattern of fiat assertions followed by condescending mockery from you. Continuing the pattern doesn't rebut the claim that it's there.
You started it. Besides, my only interest in your posts comes from seeing the irrational lengths to which you will go to deny your nihilism.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 2:30 pm (This post was last modified: February 21, 2015 at 2:31 pm by Esquilax.)
(February 21, 2015 at 2:25 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: You started it.

Oh yeah? Tell that to my face in the playground after school! Rolleyes

Quote:Besides, my only interest in your posts comes from seeing the irrational lengths to which you will go to deny your nihilism.

Yeah, you keep telling me what I think, Chad. You'd know that much better than I would. Dodgy

I take it you, as usual, don't have a lick of justification for your position, then? Just this pretense of intellectual superiority whenever someone points out that you've never once provided evidence for the things you claim?
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 3:06 pm
I invented pebbles.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 3:12 pm
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"Well, evolution is a theory. It is also a fact. And facts and theories are different things, not rungs in a hierarchy of increasing certainty. Facts are the world's data. Theories are structures of ideas that explain and interpret facts. Facts don't go away when scientists debate rival theories to explain them. Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome. And humans evolved from ape- like ancestors whether they did so by Darwin's proposed mechanism or by some other yet to be discovered."

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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 6:50 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 1:16 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: True. Because God is why mathematics exists in the first place.

Yup. I confirm that God sucked mathematics right out of the tip of my penis. Thanks God. Always a pleasure.
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 7:05 pm
(February 21, 2015 at 2:35 am)xr34p3rx Wrote:
(February 21, 2015 at 2:08 am)Pizz-atheist Wrote: What argument are you talking about?

the argument where Christians pull a number out of their ass saying "what are the chances of a universe like this existing without a god" or something similar.

Oh! That's called an argument of personal incredulity, combined with an argument from ignorance. Its a giant uppercut to the jaw of logic.

Something like:
"It sounds crazy because I don't know anything about it, therefore, this is what happened because it's easier and it makes me feel good."
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RE: The argument of "chance"
February 21, 2015 at 9:01 pm
30% of the world are christian who believe Jesus is the son of God and died on a cross for our sins and rose again. All books in the bible agree to thesame thing despite being written by different authors at diff times. Old testament Iis full of fulfilled prophecies about Jesus. All OT prophecies were fulfilled thats y they were true prophets and their word will live forever.
On the other hand evilutions are always changing their stories about fossils. Thats why its crap. I would suggest subscibing to creation.com. it completely and utterly destroys evolution scientifically.
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