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Christians: how do you sleep at night?
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 (February 22, 2015 at 12:14 am)Wiggy Wrote: So many damaged and misinformed people here with regards to God and the bible. This must be therepitic for some to God bash. Fact is bible strongly suggests that God loves us. The greatest act of love is self sacrifice for someone. Jesus died for us. You cant accuse God of nothing at judgement day. God offered you eternal life and you refused. Yes there Iis ahell like there is life imprisonment for commiting murder. Reward and punishment is a part of life. Dying for a few days, then coming back to life is not a sacrifice. Yahweh doesn't think about anyone but himself, and the bible makes that painfully clear. We can accuse him of many things. The least of which is narcissism.
Poe's Law: "Without a winking smiley or other blatant display of humor, it is impossible to create a parody of Fundamentalism that SOMEONE won't mistake for the real thing."
10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html  RE: Christians: how do you sleep at night?
February 22, 2015 at 12:26 am
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2015 at 12:28 am by Cyberman.)
(February 21, 2015 at 5:15 pm)professor Wrote: Hi Norm, Prof, seriously, you need to stop getting your 'information' from Chick Tracts. ![[Image: 2927_600.png]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=ic.pics.livejournal.com%2Foften_partisan%2F41126706%2F2927%2F2927_600.png)
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
 (February 22, 2015 at 12:14 am)Wiggy Wrote: So many damaged and misinformed people here with regards to God and the bible. This must be therepitic for some to God bash. Fact is bible strongly suggests that God loves us. The greatest act of love is self sacrifice for someone. Jesus died for us. You cant accuse God of nothing at judgement day. God offered you eternal life and you refused. Yes there Iis ahell like there is life imprisonment for commiting murder. Reward and punishment is a part of life.  The bible does and does not suggest that god loves us. Here and there is says he does, but his actions (always a better indicator than words) suggest otherwise. But the whole thing is irrelevant if there is no god. And for any proposition the default mode, is to assume there isn't. There is no evidence of god. Think otherwise? Let's see the evidence. Yes, I know Christians believe (at least some of them do) in hell. But the reward and punishment system is rather strange. Hell is reserved for anyone no matter how good who doesn't believe. Heaven for anyone no matter how bad who does. So it's not our morality that's supposed to be rewarded, but our credulity. And it's not our evilness that's supposed to be punished but our rationality. Odd. Frankly, I'm glad the whole scheme is highly improbable. In any case, the real world rewards rationality and punishes credulity. Hence the poverty of most highly religious nations.
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.
 (February 22, 2015 at 12:14 am)Wiggy Wrote: Jesus died for us. So an immortal pinched off a bit of himself and sent this piece to be subjected to something the god made called death, which all christians agree does not mean death of the soul only of a body that the god made out of mud. After a couple or three days, the god portion goes back to enjoy his immortality with the sky god. Big Sacrifice there! We humans fear death because we don't know the other side of death, god/jesus knew the other side so it meant nothing. Nothing at all. It would have been no more scary than flying up to god in a whirlwind as was so popular in those days.  ![[Image: 139.jpg]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=www.atheistmemebase.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F03%2F139.jpg) ![[Image: christianity.jpg?w=460&h=388]](https://images.weserv.nl/?url=shaunphilly.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F06%2Fchristianity.jpg%3Fw%3D460%26amp%3Bh%3D388)
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 (February 22, 2015 at 12:14 am)Wiggy Wrote: So many damaged and misinformed people here with regards to God and the bible. This must be therepitic for some to God bash. Fact is bible strongly suggests that God loves us. The greatest act of love is self sacrifice for someone. Jesus died for us. You cant accuse God of nothing at judgement day. God offered you eternal life and you refused. Yes there Iis ahell like there is life imprisonment for commiting murder. Reward and punishment is a part of life. God did not sacrifice himself for us. As others have pointed out, if your god was real then he designed the game of salvation. He made the rules. Doesn't it bother you just a little that your god designed a system where he had to implant himself in a virgin, commit suicide by Roman soldier and be revived to live an eternity being worshipped and adored while those that do not grovel and kiss his butt spend an eternity being punished. How was Jesus'death a sacrifice when he knew he would become king of everything?  RE: Christians: how do you sleep at night?
February 22, 2015 at 2:41 am
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2015 at 3:07 am by Mudhammam.)
I think you give people too much credit to be upset with them for their silly beliefs. Mankind is in general just not that inquisitive or skeptical, especially when tradition forbids it. We seekers are but lucky to have an itch for understanding that is only matched by the introspection and honesty our natures demand of the research we do.
He who loves God cannot endeavour that God should love him in return - Baruch Spinoza
 RE: Christians: how do you sleep at night?
February 22, 2015 at 2:47 am
(This post was last modified: February 22, 2015 at 2:48 am by robvalue.)
It's like saying an abusive husband really must love you because sometimes he hurts himself instead of you. Or at least, pretends to.
"Ow ow, that really hurt! No, really! I hit me instead of you that time! OK back to you now." *Thwack* Feel free to send me a private message.
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Of course there was never a Jesus, and its embarrassing to even discus it.
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