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The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
#71
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: According to who? Don't you believe life spontaneously created itself through Abiogenesis? But a dead person returning to life is all of the sudden beyond the realm of possibility?

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#72
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 4:42 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote:
(February 28, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: According to who? Don't you believe life spontaneously created itself through Abiogenesis? But a dead person returning to life is all of the sudden beyond the realm of possibility?


Oh...it's worse than I thought. Nevermind.
From the Washington Post
Woman ‘spontaneously’ revives after 45 minutes without a pulse

Quote:As Graupera-Cassimiro slipped into unconsciousness, doctors and nurses rushed back to her room in a desperate effort to save her life.

After more than two hours later, her heart stopped.

Doctors and nurses began chest compression that would continue for 45 minutes. They took turns to avoid exhaustion and used electric shock paddles. But nothing worked.

Finally, they decided to call her family into the room to say their goodbyes.

"Once we say that's it, that's it," said anesthesiologist Dr. Anthony Salvadore, according to the Sun Sentinel.

Her family left the room to pray. And doctors were on the verge of declaring her dead when suddenly there was a blip her heart monitor. That was followed by another and another.

Nurse Claire Hansen came out of the operating room with a shocking message, the Sun Sentinel reported.

"Keep praying," she told Graupera-Cassimiro's assembled family, "because her heart just started."

"She essentially spontaneously resuscitated when we were about to call the time of death," said Thomas Chakurda, the hospital spokesman told the Associated Press.
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#73
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 4:34 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: According to who? Don't you believe life spontaneously created itself through Abiogenesis? But a dead person returning to life is all of the sudden beyond the realm of possibility?

I could understand if these resurrections were proven to happen after this one man supposedly experienced it or if it was something that still happened to this day, a common practice that could be verified as real instead of as fantastical hearsay.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#74
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
[quote='Huggy74' pid='886998' dateline='1425156700']

From the Washington Post
Woman ‘spontaneously’ revives after 45 minutes without a pulse


...Then she wasn't dead.
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#75
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 7:10 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: ...Then she wasn't dead.

In what world is having no pulse for 45 minutes not dead? please enlighten us on the proper procedure of declaring someone dead doctor.
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#76
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 7:10 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: ...Then she wasn't dead.

Exactly. If she had been dead for three days and was then resurrected, well anyone who thinks logically knows such things only happen in myth and popular fiction.
"Never trust a fox. Looks like a dog, behaves like a cat."
~ Erin Hunter
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#77
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 7:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote:
(February 28, 2015 at 7:10 pm)The Reality Salesman Wrote: ...Then she wasn't dead.

In what world is having no pulse for 45 minutes not dead? please enlighten us on the proper procedure of declaring someone dead doctor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death

Quote:Brain death is one of the two ways of determination of death, according to the Uniform Determination of Death Act of the United States (the other way of determining death being "irreversible cessation of circulatory and respiratory functions").

The key word being "irreversible."
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#78
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 7:33 pm)Norman Humann Wrote:
(February 28, 2015 at 7:25 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: In what world is having no pulse for 45 minutes not dead? please enlighten us on the proper procedure of declaring someone dead doctor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brain_death

Quote:Brain death is one of the two ways of determination of death, according to the Uniform Determination of Death Act of the United States (the other way of determining death being "irreversible cessation of circulatory and respiratory functions").

The key word being "irreversible."
Didn't read the part where they gave up trying to revive the woman?
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#79
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 7:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You realize you're proving my point right?

Oh my. Do enlighten me, how?
IRREVERSIBLE. Do you need a dictionary definition? Her pulse returned, so how the fuck was it irreversible?

It's irrelevant if they stopped reviving her, that didn't make her dead because the pulse then returned.
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#80
RE: The Jesus Freaks Will Hate This
(February 28, 2015 at 7:41 pm)Norman Humann Wrote:
(February 28, 2015 at 7:39 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: You realize you're proving my point right?

Oh my. Do enlighten me, how?
IRREVERSIBLE. Do you need a dictionary definition? Her pulse returned, so how the fuck was it irreversible?

WHERE IN THE ARTICLE DOES IT STATE THAT HER CONDITION WAS REVERSED BY MEDICAL PERSONNEL?

Read carefully...

Quote:Doctors and nurses began chest compression that would continue for 45 minutes. They took turns to avoid exhaustion and used electric shock paddles. But nothing worked.

Finally, they decided to call her family into the room to say their goodbyes.
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