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Wake up jesus didn't die for your sins
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 (April 12, 2015 at 1:00 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Someone wake me up when any of this can be relevant to the idea that Mr. Christ is/was god. Piling up every jot and tittle of the ludicrous heap of Christer BS makes it harder and harder for the apologists to ply their trade. 
The granting of a pardon is an imputation of guilt, and the acceptance a confession of it.
 (April 12, 2015 at 1:19 pm)vorlon13 Wrote:(April 12, 2015 at 1:00 pm)KevinM1 Wrote: Someone wake me up when any of this can be relevant to the idea that Mr. Christ is/was god. Sorry man, not trying to be a dick. It's just frustrating to see pages of minutiae which, while somewhat interesting on its own, doesn't actually deal with the actual religious aspect. In other words, none of these details matter to me because they're just distractions from the idea of divinity. Even if Jesus existed, and the basics of his story are true, none of that lends any credence to his purported magic acts and divine nature, which is really at the core of apologetics. And, IMO, getting bogged down in this kind of thing plays into the apologists' hands. It's a distraction aimed to delay and frustrate. Yeah, there may be evidence for the actual history that goes either way, but none of it really matters when the faith is based on a few major things: 1. Triune god 2. Jesus' nature as the son of/part of that god (including his magic powers, his divine birth, etc.) 3. His crucifixion 4. His resurrection Even if 3 happened, it doesn't somehow strengthen the claims found in 1, 2, and 4. The same goes if 3 didn't happen. And so on, with the smaller details. At the end of the day, apologists want to convince others that not only did their Superman exist, but that he actually was Superman, with secret origin and powers intact. And no matter their evidence (or lack there of) for the existence of this person, they'll never be able to prove what they claim are the reasons one should devote their life to him.
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 (April 12, 2015 at 12:47 pm)robvalue Wrote: Probably stuff they took out about naughty things Jesus did. Actually, I'm pretty sure they did. I remember someone posting something about a non-canon book where Jesus killed someone as a kid. Jesus killed a kid and also rode on a dragon it was canon it was removed because that was BAMF jesus who took no shit from anyone. Then those people back then were like...jesus is too much of BAMF lets make him cute fluffy peaceful jesus.
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I reject your reality and substitute my own!
 (April 12, 2015 at 3:16 pm)Spooky Wrote:(April 12, 2015 at 11:50 am)Polaris Wrote: It already has. Many of the laws you follow are based off the teachings of Christ.
But if we walk in the light, as He is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, His Son, purifies us from all sin.
(April 12, 2015 at 3:37 pm)Polaris Wrote:(April 12, 2015 at 3:16 pm)Spooky Wrote: Prove it. It doesn't matter anyways there so broad anyways. The people who are bigots towards people of different color and even people who do not like gays and are against gay marriage are closer to true christ followers if anything. With christianity and christ it says love everyone stipulation only if they are normal of course.
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April 12, 2015 at 4:10 pm
(This post was last modified: April 12, 2015 at 4:14 pm by Chad32.)
Even if there are some laws in the bible that are original to it, and we still follow them, it just means the bible isn't complete crap. It doesn't mean we need to worship Jesus because he got a few things right.
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10 Christ-like figures that predate Jesus. Link shortened to Chris ate Jesus for some reason... http://listverse.com/2009/04/13/10-chris...ate-jesus/ Good video to watch, if you want to know how common the Jesus story really is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88GTUXvp-50 A list of biblical contradictions from the infallible word of Yahweh. http://infidels.org/library/modern/jim_m...tions.html (April 12, 2015 at 4:10 pm)Chad32 Wrote: Even if there are some laws in the bible that are original to it, and we still follow, it just means the bible isn't complete crap. It doesn't mean we need to worship Jesus because he got a few things right. Exactly
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