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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 18, 2015 at 7:41 pm
There was a reddit AMA (ask me anything) thread once where an atheist freemason said it really depended on the lodge you joined, and that some of them were fine with atheists who believed in "a power greater than themselves". He said that in his case, he believed that a bear would be more powerful than him, so technically he met the requirement.
Freemasonry is more of a social group than a religious order though; I think the main reason for atheists joining would be that their family were already members. Whilst I'm not a freemason, my paternal grandfather was a grand master (I have some of his masonic documents in a safe) which is quite interesting.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 18, 2015 at 9:13 pm
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-Most of the masons I've met (admittedly very few) seemed to conceive of it, and utilize it..... as a small business networking group. Pretty certain that at least one of them was a dyed in the wool atheist.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 18, 2015 at 11:37 pm
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(April 18, 2015 at 7:39 pm)abaris Wrote: In response to the OP, I couldn't care less about some men wearing aprons and tophats and doing funny things with skulls.
Really? that's what you think they do?
They only follow the ancient scriptures of your great ancestors where they were highly advanced spiritual humans. Unlike the degenerate un-spiritual materialistic humanoids we've become.
Masonry is the last salvation of humanity. Atheism is the symptom of the collapse of spirituality in humanity.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 18, 2015 at 11:43 pm
(April 18, 2015 at 11:37 pm)superAtheistnut Wrote:
Atheism is the symptom of the collapse of spirituality in humanity.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
By the way, don't think it has escaped our notice who you are; I expect this new sock will be erased quite soon.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 18, 2015 at 11:47 pm
(April 18, 2015 at 11:37 pm)superAtheistnut Wrote:
(April 18, 2015 at 7:39 pm)abaris Wrote: In response to the OP, I couldn't care less about some men wearing aprons and tophats and doing funny things with skulls.
Really? that's what you think they do?
They only follow the ancient scriptures of your great ancestors where they were highly advanced spiritual humans. Unlike the degenerate un-spiritual materialistic humanoids we've become.
Masonry is the last salvation of humanity. Atheism is the symptom of the collapse of spirituality in humanity.
You are an amusing troll.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 19, 2015 at 5:41 am
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(April 18, 2015 at 7:41 pm)Tiberius Wrote: There was a reddit AMA (ask me anything) thread once where an atheist freemason said it really depended on the lodge you joined, and that some of them were fine with atheists who believed in "a power greater than themselves". He said that in his case, he believed that a bear would be more powerful than him, so technically he met the requirement.
Freemasonry is more of a social group than a religious order though; I think the main reason for atheists joining would be that their family were already members. Whilst I'm not a freemason, my paternal grandfather was a grand master (I have some of his masonic documents in a safe) which is quite interesting. This doesn't surprise me. Supreme Being and higher power are vaguely defined and I imagine most masons just don't care since if I remember correctly they aren't allow to talk about religion and politics at the lodge.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 19, 2015 at 12:33 pm
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Who is he a sock of? If you're allowed to say Don't worry if not.
Doesn't seem like Drich. I was sure that guy would be back as well.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 19, 2015 at 12:46 pm
(April 19, 2015 at 12:33 pm)robvalue Wrote: Who is he a sock of? If you're allowed to say Don't worry if not.
Doesn't seem like Drich. I was sure that guy would be back as well.
Remember that guy who was like "all atheists are liberals!" and created multiple threads, under several sock accounts, to that effect? Yeah, that guy; I forget who his original username was, but the language was largely the same after a while.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 19, 2015 at 1:15 pm
I believe in plenty of powers greater than myself. Lets see .. there is the government, large carnivores, the elements .. oh, and most importantly, my wife.
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RE: Atheists not allowed to join FreeMasonry
April 19, 2015 at 2:25 pm
I can't even get the jump on my reflection.
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