Souls?

[Prince]

Usually when you hit someone on the head, a side of his brain gets damaged. So, the person forgets his memory. I am only talking about if the soul left the body, the incident which the experience has occurred is still preserved in the memory of that person after that person dies. When the soul exit the body, the memories remains alive.

It sounded rational in my head.

[robvalue]

Don't worry, you're far from the only person to think of it that way. Even many non religious folks I talk to feel there "must be a soul". Some people can't handle the idea that we might be nothing more than chemicals. But that is what the science tells us is most likely so far.

[Alex K]

Usually when you hit someone on the head, a side of his brain gets damaged. So, the person forgets his memory. I am only talking about if the soul left the body, the incident which the experience has occurred is still preserved in the memory of that person after that person dies. When the soul exit the body, the memories remains alive.

It sounded rational in my head.

The memory is gone during your lifetime if you get brain damage. You have no good reason to think that you have some kind of soul which magically retains it. And even if it did, it obviously doesn't do any good for people with brain damage while they are alive, so why should it be more useful after we die?

[Prince]

Usually when you hit someone on the head, a side of his brain gets damaged. So, the person forgets his memory. I am only talking about if the soul left the body, the incident which the experience has occurred is still preserved in the memory of that person after that person dies. When the soul exit the body, the memories remains alive.

It sounded rational in my head.

The memory is gone during your lifetime if you get brain damage. You have no good reason to think that you have some kind of soul which magically retains it. And even if it did, it obviously doesn't do any good for people with brain damage while they are alive, so why should it be more useful after we die?

I only came to the conclusion after i completed my research regarding the NDE. If the patient dies on the table, his soul will not return to his body, this is what I assumed?

[robvalue]

It's much more likely such NDE's are the brain doing bizarre things under extreme conditions. There's no evidence anything actually comes out of the body, as far as I'm aware. The mind is extremely fallible and memory is unreliable.

[Aoi Magi]

NDE is a great example of pseudo-scientific-explanations.

[Alex K]

The memory is gone during your lifetime if you get brain damage. You have no good reason to think that you have some kind of soul which magically retains it. And even if it did, it obviously doesn't do any good for people with brain damage while they are alive, so why should it be more useful after we die?

I only came to the conclusion after i completed my research regarding the NDE. If the patient dies on the table, his soul will not return to his body, this is what I assumed?

Then you shouldn't have completed the research on NDEs just yet and read some material on the topic by respectable scientists...

[ignoramus]

Prince, you're almost there. Only one more concept to remove and you will be a complete atheist.
Anything and everything relating to "WOO".

Step one: stop looking for it! NDE's are no different to faith healing, exorcisms, aliens and faceless chrome angels with chicken wings!
stay cool bro!

[Longhorn]

@Prince

Disturbed...? You ain't seen disturbed yet, son

How about you present evidence to back up the claims you've made? Otherwise they're just baseless assertions

And you failed to tell me what a soul is

Idc what you 'imagine' it does, provide me a coherent definition first

[emjay]

If the soul is defined as the mind then the problem is that everything we experience in the mind is stored and/or processed in the neural networks of the brain. And the brain is an imperfect thing that is susceptible to damage, abnormality, and outside influence (eg drugs or surgeons poking around). Through disease, people can lose their faculties or memory years before they actually die (eg dementia). Similarly through abnormality some people are physically incapable of feeling pain or fear in life. If the mind is considered to be the soul then Theists have to explain in the case of Dementia what part of their mind continues into the afterlife - is it their mind at the point of death or is it their mind from an earlier time in life before the brain damage when they were at their prime? If it's the latter, then what arbitrary point defines when they were at their prime, given that our memories and personality are constantly changing through life anyway? And as for those people incapable of experiencing pain, what would hell mean to them if their exact mind was replicated there? Not much. It seems to me that the Theist concept of soul = mind suffers an ignorant delusion that all minds are alike.