God created the world in 7 days. Define "Day"

[bucky]

The creation story, is basically a babylonian myth. In those days they didnt know about science and the big bang, evolution etc etc. I think people have a responsibility to look at the bible in the right context. because parts are to be taken literally and other parts are to be taken Metaphorically and. This part falls into the metaphorical category.

Because even though it is not a scientific account of how the universe came into being. The underlying important bit is that it was God who created it, and it was designed with intention and care. It is also explaining Gods relationship with humans.

Now im expecting a reply saying, how convenient it is metaphorical. well im sorry for the convenience but it really is, ask any scholar.

[Skipper]

I think people have a responsibility to look at the bible in the right context. because parts are to be taken literally and other parts are to be taken Metaphorically and. This part falls into the metaphorical category.

Because even though it is not a scientific account of how the universe came into being. The underlying important bit is that it was God who created it,

I love how you religious folk can pick and choose which parts are to be taken literally or not.

"What nasty bits in the bible?! O NO, don't take them literally!"

"Bits that we now know to be impossible?! O NO, their just stories as well"

"The bits that can be seen to make us look good?! O yea, read literally please!"

"So science has better ideas now than people did back then about how the universe could have come about?!?! Well just ignore most of genesis then, but God was definitely the cause of it all! Thats the important bit!"

Am I right in thinking genesis (As like much of the old testament) is written by Moses as told to him by God? Why the fuck then didn't god give a proper explanation for the start of things a long the lines of, "yea I kicked started it all but then pretty much left the universe to do it's own thing". Why are we lead to believe god spent a week putting it all together in its current form? Why are we also told humans were created as they are now, why is there no mention of evolution? Why does god have to talk in fucking riddles all the time!?

Could it be that the humans that were writing it, with no help from any creator, were an un-advanced bunch who knew nothing like we know today and if their type tried to write the bible for the first time today they would just be laughed at by people who were no longer superstitious enough to buy into this crap?

[Minimalist]

ask any scholar.

And by "scholar" I presume you mean some twit with a theology degree? Those people have a vested interest in maintaining their own belief system and selling it to the ignorant.


There is no field of study less worthwhile than "theology."

[josh.niles]

Uhm metaphorical or not all the stories are parabols for everyday living. Who knows what a day is to God? What is a day to an ant vs. an elephant? We can't know these things.(atleast not yet.)

[Skipper]

Uhm metaphorical or not all the stories are parabols for everyday living. Who knows what a day is to God? What is a day to an ant vs. an elephant? We can't know these things.(atleast not yet.)

But genesis is written by Moses as told to him by god.

[chatpilot]

Cerrone I have explained this so many times that it's pathetic lol. But I personally believe that they were referring to a literal 6 days of creation the seventh does not count because God was kicking back with a Corona after all that speaking everything into existence. The reason I think it was a literal six days was because after every day the passage states: Evening came and morning came: the second day. (NJB) It does this between each day. till the six days are up. Recognizing that a day is recorded by the passage of time that it takes for the sun to rise and set.

Now stupid apologists want to make this an issue in order to try and make up for the discrepancy between the age of the earth based on the bible to the scientific age of the earth. So they say dumb shit like: 8. But there is one thing, my dear friends, that you must never forget: that with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day. (2 Peter 3:8) , but it was not the Lord who was writing this crap down it was a man whose perception of time is exactly like our own. Even if we granted this that would only mean that it took the Lord about 6,000 years to create the Earth and that is not enough time for evolution. So we are still left with a discrepancy.

[TheDarkestOfAngels]

I was browsing the forums and came across a mention of how christians always say "god created the universe in 7 days" but, what is a day exactly? He created the universe in 7 earth days? A day is different on every planet, it's longer shorter etc etc, so we measure the time of a day from that on earth by itself?

Evidently this "7 days" crap is further proof that the creation story was created by earth bound humans who believed the world was flat and had no notion of the time differences in terms of a day as they appear on other planets.

I'm throwing that out there; another huge flaw in the story

Six days, actually. On the seventh, an omnipotent being with limitless and ill-defined powers required time to recharge his batteries and bless his creation (he's working on the sabbath!!!) after spending most of the week creating this one planet and all the life on it and everything else.
Although I'm reasonably certain that a 'day' in genesis is just that.
God might be a genocidal monster in the old testiment, but if there's one thing he isn't is a liar.

[radames]

I wonder if the biblical god was at the epicenter of a black hole when this time discrepancy was noticed. The closer to the speed of light you get the slower things seem to go around you. Maybe the "tribal" Neanderthals who contributed to writing religious texts had already discovered the speed of light and the death of stars.

[Cerrone]

The creation story, is basically a babylonian myth. In those days they didnt know about science and the big bang, evolution etc etc. I think people have a responsibility to look at the bible in the right context. because parts are to be taken literally and other parts are to be taken Metaphorically and. This part falls into the metaphorical category.

Because even though it is not a scientific account of how the universe came into being. The underlying important bit is that it was God who created it, and it was designed with intention and care. It is also explaining Gods relationship with humans.

Now im expecting a reply saying, how convenient it is metaphorical. well im sorry for the convenience but it really is, ask any scholar.

Sure you can take it metaphorically, and some christians tend to do so. But the sheer insanity here is that the christians who recognise the flaws still continue being christians. Why? I mean come on the inquisition and the church realised that any source that contradicts them proves them to be wrong, thats why people were burnt at the stake, murdered, tortured, cultures destroyed and countless ancient texts destroyed by the christians throughout their history.

It's pretty simple, if a source reveals the bible to be untrue in its accounts, then it reveals the chruch and god to be untrue also, therefore the correct course of action is to realise that god and the church is bullshit. That's called common sense.

It's almost as ridiculous as "gays supporting catholicism", they can't shake off the hold religion has on them (or should I say the addiction they've got to it, more accurately), even though they're hated by their religion and disobey their religion. There comes a point when you've made somebody aware of the flaws of their socially institutionalised beliefs and they realise their error, and they keep doing it anyway... that's called plain and unforgiveable stupidity.



Your religion demands that you take everything the bible says literally, even the talking goats, and that itself is the absolute illogical insanity of mainstream religion today. If you want to take it metaphorically, then do so; take the lessons from the babylonians and egyptians as the helpful metaphors they were designed to be, but don't advertise yourself as a chrisitan, because everytime you make that statement you're putting youself on the same side of a lot of nasty ignorant bigots by default. So consider that.

[josh.niles]

Because Religion isn't the enemy? Maybe it's people who are the genocidal maniacs.