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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 1:36 pm
(June 11, 2015 at 12:54 pm)Faith No More Wrote: I notice you didn't break down the statistics by region, Steve. Didn't want anyone to see that religion is growing mostly in backwater, uneducated places like Africa but on the decline in the first world?
I commend Christian charities that provide some relief for the destitute, but I question the sincerity of the conversion. The cargo cult comes to mind. If I were starving I would have no problem listening to testimony and feigning belief for the promise of a sandwich and bottle of water.
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 2:41 pm
"Hi there, we've come to tell you about God! You know, that guy who clearly hasn't been taking care of you in any way?"
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm
In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics, every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.
You would think that when considering on one side, the pretty constant vitriolic phrases thrown around here every few minutes toward those that believe in God, to the other end of more civil but obvious disdain, that such "absurd" beliefs would be on there way out.
When does billions and billions of people's choices become evidence that there might be something more to life than what we can see and touch? Are you really going to claim that in spite of this "evidence" there really is nothing else and it is just your little tiny minority that has it right?
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:20 pm
(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics,
You're the one who brought up these statistics...
Quote: every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.
More Muslims and atheists too, bud.
Quote:You would think that when considering on one side, the pretty constant vitriolic phrases thrown around here every few minutes toward those that believe in God, to the other end of more civil but obvious disdain, that such "absurd" beliefs would be on there way out.
When does billions and billions of people's choices become evidence that there might be something more to life than what we can see and touch? Are you really going to claim that in spite of this "evidence" there really is nothing else and it is just your little tiny minority that has it right?
40 million smokers can't be wrong.
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:23 pm
And now we're on to establishing truth by counting heads? Pathetic.
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:23 pm
(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics, every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.
So, in spite of all the evidence that you're wrong, you're going to continue to pretend that you're right.
What an idiot.
There is nothing demonstrably true that religion can provide mankind that cannot be achieved as well or better through secular means.
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:25 pm
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Quote:You would think that when considering on one side, the pretty constant vitriolic phrases thrown around here every few minutes toward those that believe in God, to the other end of more civil but obvious disdain, that such "absurd" beliefs would be on there way out.
We might think you're stupid but at least we don't think you deserve to burn in a lake of fire for the rest of time
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:27 pm
(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics, every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.
Yea. Because there are more fucking people every day, and the percentage of christians in first world countries is actually falling. I don't understand how you fail to grasp this basic fact.
(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: When does billions and billions of people's choices become evidence that there might be something more to life than what we can see and touch? Are you really going to claim that in spite of this "evidence" there really is nothing else and it is just your little tiny minority that has it right?
And you're really going to claim YOUR tiny minority has it right, despite your underwhelming inability to present any evidence at all?
Yawn. Let me know when you come up with something better than a half assed argument from popularity.
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm
(June 11, 2015 at 4:19 pm)SteveII Wrote: In spite of all the statistics and breakdowns of demographics, every day when you wake up there are more Christians in the USA and the world.
You would think that when considering on one side, the pretty constant vitriolic phrases thrown around here every few minutes toward those that believe in God, to the other end of more civil but obvious disdain, that such "absurd" beliefs would be on there way out.
When does billions and billions of people's choices become evidence that there might be something more to life than what we can see and touch? Are you really going to claim that in spite of this "evidence" there really is nothing else and it is just your little tiny minority that has it right?
So, when the Muslim population outnumbers the Christian population (extremely likely to happen by 2050), will that be "evidence" that they are correct?
Your grasp of basic logic is, shall we say, less then stellar.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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RE: Why does religion continue to grow?
June 11, 2015 at 4:33 pm
I disagree that this is appeal to numbers. It is a psychological observation of people's choices and is therefore data that can be used as evidence that there might be more than the material world.
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