Calling it into question...

[pocaracas]

Can you describe to me how you have been shown these things?

All I can say is search popsthebuilder on the tapatalk app. I just don't have the time to explain correctly. I have tried before using tapatalk it shouldn't be too hard to find.

Are you sure you want me to search in tapatalk?
Google gives me a bunch of forums where your username is active... Why don't you show me the text you mean where you have it all laid out?

[popsthebuilder]

Just sayin I'm not dense.

Already answered Ben's questions.

Would never ask anything from the Lord that wasn't what he wanted from me.
Asking him to strike anyone dead from my perspective would be wrong. The Lord usually doesn't intervine in direct ways like that anyway.

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All I can say is search popsthebuilder on the tapatalk app. I just don't have the time to explain correctly. I have tried before using tapatalk it shouldn't be too hard to find.

Are you sure you want me to search in tapatalk?
Google gives me a bunch of forums where your username is active... Why don't you show me the text you mean where you have it all laid out?

I don't know exactly where it is. It's scattered a little. You could find it with tapatalk. Sorry wish I knew exactly which threads.

[Joods]

So instead of you offering up the proof yourself, you want US to look for it FOR you?

How utterly convenient.

[Thumpalumpacus]

"... and he needs MONEY! Lots and lots of money!"

Money is not my goal I assure you.

Yeah, neither of us were talking about you.

[popsthebuilder]

Judi lynn, what do you mean?

One of you asked me to recount my interaction with the Lord. That is what I was saying to search for if interested. I doubt there will be much proof that is different from other things I have said. But maybe you'll get a better idea of where I'm coming from.

[Joods]

No.. when someone is asked a question, normally a reasonable answer follows from a person of ordinary sensibilities. However, you would like us to find the answer to the question that was asked TO YOU, ourselves by searching for it, rather than you just answering the question.

Obviously there's an interest if the question was asked. No?

[Joods]

The greatest excuse to avoid answering a question is to say one doesn't have the time to answer correctly. If you have time for three second responses that span over more than thirty minutes, surely you have time to actually answer the question.

[popsthebuilder]

Judi Lynn,
Everything has a path. Even other intelegent creatures that surely make there own decisions choose to take there preordained path. This path leads them to a happy meaningful existence. If solar systems didn't go along there path they wouldn't sustain life as we know it. We are the only beings that we know of that go against our destiny just because we can.

I was generalizing based on my experience dealing with and being atheist. If the shoe fits wear it, if not I wasn't talking to you. You threaten of deep water to a fish, for my vast understanding has only come after vast pain that I thrive in and relish. Please, free me, let me show you the ways not right. Threats are absolutely useless. I fear none but the Lord and he guides me as long as I keep my perspective. There are three have no doubt. I am generally respectful and don't take kindly to worthless threats. What I'm tryin to say is act or shut the fuck up with your negativity.
Most are selfish is what I originally meant.
The next two things are you acting as if I'm attacking you. But you do admit to being a fighter, that's good. I'm glad you made it through your personal conflicts.

Fact. Either you have some idea of the truth and do nothing about it which is a shitty existence. Or you are not observant to reality because you are caught up in society, greed, lust, addiction, etc, or oblivious cause uhm... Your dumb

How in the he'll are you gonna tell me what I can relate to in the Bible? Some fuckin people. I personally can make sense of pretty much all I have read. Sorry you can't and don't want to. Do you fuckit. He destroyed them so they could reboot basically. Or are you talking about the time before that with the bloodthirsting giants that were mad and eating people and kids? Either way justified as far as I'm concerned. Not going to intercine again because of it.

You completely misconstrued the message. Do good or pay the consiquences here and now or in death as energy that returns to what it's actions in life were. Both are hell. He guides us for our benifit. What the fuck would he get out of it? It's for us. The free will, the unique life all the way down to the earth. It's all about opportunity to do great and accomplish greatness universally as opposed to wallowing in self pity and greed wondering were Gods hand out is.

Once again God has given us the chance to end hunger, desease, cancer. Half that shit is our own doing. The other half is evil or chaos. Balance in everything. Not equal though and that's a blessing.


Besides what I know. And what shows itself daily.
Spence people had written language they have spoken of the right way. It's not a coincedence that they are all closely related and many with same names places and events. All that shit must be colwctively made up though right. The splendor of our existence and everything we have the potential to destroy or help is proof. All this didn't happen on it's own. Sorry. Something at least got the ball Rollin. Whatever that is is God. It's not something you see. Well really it is because it is in everything, but the connection really is something you feel.

Someone asked about direct intervention. God doesn't necessarily just intervene. He said he would never do that on a large scale again. He gives us the opportunity to make our own fate but has shown us the right direction.

Did I say it was an Abrahamic Lord. No. I said all Gods from main religions could be considered the same. That doesn't mean that it acts like Yah only. Or Jesus, or Allah or any one particular God. They are all the same and share attributes.

The Lord was testing his faith for good reason. He would have killed the child if the Lord hadn't stopped him.

Once again, he gave us the earth and all things on it. Including the opportunity to fuck up or become great.

You say I was brainwashed by my religion. I was atheist for about 25 years. Ass. No one taught me shit let alone force religion in me. Do you understand that I came to all these conclusions before I ever read the Bible? I still haven't read the New Testament. Because of the contradictions I'm waiting on that one. There isn't a religion I know of that has the same beliefs as me.

I don't know what your problem is exactly and I really don't care. You obviously have a lot of problems. The one Lord could help but I'm sure that's the last thing you want to hear. You don't consider your internal turmoil a he'll of sorts, or at least really strong evidence that something is wrong?

[Redbeard The Pink]

The splendor of our existence and everything we have the potential to destroy or help is proof. All this didn't happen on it's own. Sorry. Something at least got the ball Rollin. Whatever that is is God. It's not something you see. Well really it is because it is in everything, but the connection really is something you feel.

Ah, the classic argument from ignorance, or the "God of the Gaps" fallacy. We don't know what's responsible for X, therefore god, right?

Wrong! The fact is that your statement should stop with "we don't know." Any time you go beyond that and say "so it must be x," you're actually just speculating and arguing from ignorance. You've already postulated that you don't know because you don't have enough information to know, so how will you now then turn around and postulate an answer that is based on...what, your lack of knowledge? Lack of evidence? What, then, is the justification for believing your claim?

Since you've established that nobody else you know believes like you do, the simple fact is that you have made up your own god, which no one can corroborate except you and which you cannot corroborate with evidence. "We're here and must have come from somewhere, therefore god" is not evidence, nor does it even qualify as a legitimate argument.

If that's how you're proving god to yourself, your standard of evidence is just not very high. Anyone can tell themselves anything they want; that doesn't make it true.

If you were really an atheist for 25 years and then decided to find religion...what can I say? You fucked up. You had it right, and then you fucked it up. Why would you do that? My guess is that you didn't have a logical basis for your beliefs before, and so it didn't take much to change them. I guess it's true what they say...if you don't stand on something solid, you really will fall for anything.

Listen, we don't ask much. All we want is one fact. One measly little fact that isn't a 2,000+ year old alleged miracle. Not apologetics, not a bunch of bullshit logical circles and hypothetical hoop-jumping...just one measly shred of observable evidence. That's all. The fact that theists can't produce it is telling, to say the least.

[popsthebuilder]

The splendor of our existence and everything we have the potential to destroy or help is proof. All this didn't happen on it's own. Sorry. Something at least got the ball Rollin. Whatever that is is God. It's not something you see. Well really it is because it is in everything, but the connection really is something you feel.

Ah, the classic argument from ignorance, or the "God of the Gaps" fallacy. We don't know what's responsible for X, therefore god, right?

Wrong! The fact is that your statement should stop with "we don't know." Any time you go beyond that and say "so it must be x," you're actually just speculating and arguing from ignorance. You've already postulated that you don't know because you don't have enough information to know, so how will you now then turn around and postulate an answer that is based on...what, your lack of knowledge? Lack of evidence? What, then, is the justification for believing your claim?

Since you've established that nobody else you know believes like you do, the simple fact is that you have made up your own god, which no one can corroborate except you and which you cannot corroborate with evidence. "We're here and must have come from somewhere, therefore god" is not evidence, nor does it even qualify as a legitimate argument.

If that's how you're proving god to yourself, your standard of evidence is just not very high. Anyone can tell themselves anything they want; that doesn't make it true.

If you were really an atheist for 25 years and then decided to find religion...what can I say? You fucked up. You had it right, and then you fucked it up. Why would you do that? My guess is that you didn't have a logical basis for your beliefs before, and so it didn't take much to change them. I guess it's true what they say...if you don't stand on something solid, you really will fall for anything.

Listen, we don't ask much. All we want is one fact. One measly little fact that isn't a 2,000+ year old alleged miracle. Not apologetics, not a bunch of bullshit logical circles and hypothetical hoop-jumping...just one measly shred of observable evidence. That's all. The fact that theists can't produce it is telling, to say the least.

I'm sorry but how in the fuck would you scientifically prove something that science can't even begin to answer? And get this you fuck; I know what the fuck I know because I was shone. The Lord had mercy on me. It's that ducking simple. I have had a close relationship with our being ever since. You have no clue. Existence is our God. The fucking opporrunity to reign over all things that we observe. What, that was just from some dust? No fucking way are we so fucking privileged to just happen to be here with the greatness we have just cuz. Are you so fucking shallow that you can't understand that science can't define or even remotely interpret some things? Science is a tool for understanding things. It breaks things down into smaller pieces. How are you going to break something down that isn't material?
Get your head out of your ass.

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The splendor of our existence and everything we have the potential to destroy or help is proof. All this didn't happen on it's own. Sorry. Something at least got the ball Rollin. Whatever that is is God. It's not something you see. Well really it is because it is in everything, but the connection really is something you feel.

Ah, the classic argument from ignorance, or the "God of the Gaps" fallacy. We don't know what's responsible for X, therefore god, right?

Wrong! The fact is that your statement should stop with "we don't know." Any time you go beyond that and say "so it must be x," you're actually just speculating and arguing from ignorance. You've already postulated that you don't know because you don't have enough information to know, so how will you now then turn around and postulate an answer that is based on...what, your lack of knowledge? Lack of evidence? What, then, is the justification for believing your claim?

Since you've established that nobody else you know believes like you do, the simple fact is that you have made up your own god, which no one can corroborate except you and which you cannot corroborate with evidence. "We're here and must have come from somewhere, therefore god" is not evidence, nor does it even qualify as a legitimate argument.

If that's how you're proving god to yourself, your standard of evidence is just not very high. Anyone can tell themselves anything they want; that doesn't make it true.

If you were really an atheist for 25 years and then decided to find religion...what can I say? You fucked up. You had it right, and then you fucked it up. Why would you do that? My guess is that you didn't have a logical basis for your beliefs before, and so it didn't take much to change them. I guess it's true what they say...if you don't stand on something solid, you really will fall for anything.

Listen, we don't ask much. All we want is one fact. One measly little fact that isn't a 2,000+ year old alleged miracle. Not apologetics, not a bunch of bullshit logical circles and hypothetical hoop-jumping...just one measly shred of observable evidence. That's all. The fact that theists can't produce it is telling, to say the least.

You are the one who doesn't know. I assure you.