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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 19, 2015 at 11:55 pm
(July 19, 2015 at 11:17 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Here, let me lay this out for you, and tell me whether you prefer my jokes afterward.
You're a member of a death cult that has wrought immense destruction and misery upon countless lives over hundreds of years hoping to escape judgement for your vast sins by way of blood magic...someone -else's- blood, no less. To me, this would seem to imply that you're made of grittier stuff than you let on - and it certainly leaves your religious faith with no grounds to complain about hurt feelings.
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I can crack another pedo priest joke. Which injures you more deeply...and has it ever occurred to you that I, like most human beings, leverage humor when I'm confronted with something that makes me tremendously uncomfortable?
This is all hypothetical, right?
Ok. If we were real life friends and I was doing something illegal, then you have every reason to tell me, and then go to the police. I don't really see your need to want to be constantly harassing me otherwise. If I disgusted you so much, then maybe it would be better to cease being friends.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 19, 2015 at 11:56 pm
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(July 19, 2015 at 11:53 pm)Pizza Wrote: How did this thread become about Catholic_Lady's feelings?
Ask Whateverist and Rhythm lol.
I'm just answering their questions.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly."
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:06 am
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Hey look, a catholic telling me what my place is......while shitposting about pretend feelings and imagined harrassment. How unsurprising. Personally, I'd prefer to see the catholics of the world cease to be disgusting. Just doing my part.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:07 am
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I guess the biggest stumbling block in giving you what you're asking, Cath-y, is that this is precisely where most of us go to vent about religion. Any place else and I'm not in to it. If people enjoyed mocking religion before you arrived, and who among us has not laughed at Bill Maher doing just that, you can't expect them to stop now that you're here, right?
It is one thing to do something because you want to hurt someone versus wanting to do a thing and realizing that might happen. In RL I don't make too many sacrifices for other people's feelings. If we disagree or what they want and I want is incompatible, I don't think I owe it to anyone to sacrifice what I want.
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July 20, 2015 at 1:10 am
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Meh, it's all a charade anyway. Didn't see her jump in to defend the religious sensibilities of any of our recent muslims. In fact, I recall her pointing the finger in their direction more than once, as though we were dogs she could set upon the undesirables.
It's only an issue when we mock the teachings of the great and powerful Cathol. Then it's all feigned fragility and pleas for tolerance and respect -business as usual-. Have we seen any introspection, any comment taken to heart? Nope, just "mean atheists and their hurtful comments". I've heard this tune too many times to be amused or sympathetic.
I am the Infantry. I am my country’s strength in war, her deterrent in peace. I am the heart of the fight… wherever, whenever. I carry America’s faith and honor against her enemies. I am the Queen of Battle. I am what my country expects me to be, the best trained Soldier in the world. In the race for victory, I am swift, determined, and courageous, armed with a fierce will to win. Never will I fail my country’s trust. Always I fight on…through the foe, to the objective, to triumph overall. If necessary, I will fight to my death. By my steadfast courage, I have won more than 200 years of freedom. I yield not to weakness, to hunger, to cowardice, to fatigue, to superior odds, For I am mentally tough, physically strong, and morally straight. I forsake not, my country, my mission, my comrades, my sacred duty. I am relentless. I am always there, now and forever. I AM THE INFANTRY! FOLLOW ME!
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:26 am
In a relationship, I'm very leery of women who talk too much about their heart and feelings. I mean, a little will go a long way. But I really don't like being seen as good building material for the man she would really like to be with. I've always told girlfriends I don't come with a channel tuner, just an on/off. We all have feelings. We all want things. We have to barter openly and honestly for them.
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:30 am
(July 19, 2015 at 11:33 pm)Catholic_Lady Wrote: (July 19, 2015 at 11:11 pm)Rhythm Wrote: To clarify, as asked...are you so delicate that I should censor my speech for the benefit of your religious sensibilities? Perhaps you can see how atrocious that might seem to a person who already finds your beliefs deplorable?
If we were friends, I would expect you not to be making fun of my beliefs to my face (which is making fun of me). This is just common human decency you learn about in kindergarten.
How is making fun of your beliefs making fun of you? Is being catholic that central to your identity that you have none without it?
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:31 am
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-that's how, there's nothing else going on here, it's not particularly difficult to unpack.
I missed that bit earlier, but since we're talking about things learnt in kindergarten...I distinctly recall some lessons about not allowing others to be punished for ones own misdeeds......
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:37 am
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RE: "The Lord has redeemed all of us, all of us..." should we be grateful?
July 20, 2015 at 1:45 am
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Back to popadom benadictine or whatever he's called, I suppose a message of inclusiveness could be seen as progress. I just rather doubt the sincerity of it, and I expect there are some caveats in the small print. (Subject to eventually accepting Jesus)
Every church is going to have become more liberal I feel, or it will crumble. CL represents the future type of believer in my opinion.
It's one of the big problems I have with religion. Apparently you can ignore it, live like a shit, fuck people over all your life, then just before you die "accept Jesus and get forgiven". You get the same reward as someone who has worshipped God all their life and lived as best they can. And you get a better reward than an atheist who simply cares about people but does it their own way. (That's the popular view, at least. I don't know if this statement officially changes that. I find it very unlikely.)
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