I Wonder How Much Longer the EU Will Last?

[abaris]

As for the moralistic and patriotic twaddle that one finds in many American films, they are not all that way.  They probably stand out in your mind because annoyances are more noticeable than things that are not annoying.  I won't bother with saying more on that, as it does not matter for my claims that the US is very alien to Europe.

I'm aware of that. There are Americann shows I like and certainly don't fall into that category. What I wanted to point out is that something like that is totally unthinkable in Europe - UK included. The only exemption I know of would be the last season of the british series Spooks, where they jumped the anti terror train. But that was also the dying day of that show.

You're right, this would warrant an own thread and make for some interesting discussion. But one thing before I let it lie: Spooks, up until then, was an exemplary show. I doubt it was in any way realistic, but it laid great emphasis on the cynicism of the secret service and painted them in a very shady light.