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It's official. The universe is dying.
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RE: It's official. The universe is dying.
(August 11, 2015 at 11:20 am)Pyrrho Wrote:
(August 11, 2015 at 5:32 am)ignoramus Wrote: ...

Nothing really good or really bad lasts a long time.
...

I disagree with that saying.  David Hume expressed it well, so I will simply quote him:


Quote:Admitting your position, replied PHILO, which yet is extremely doubtful, you must at the same time allow, that if pain be less frequent than pleasure, it is infinitely more violent and durable. One hour of it is often able to outweigh a day, a week, a month of our common insipid enjoyments; and how many days, weeks, and months, are passed by several in the most acute torments? Pleasure, scarcely in one instance, is ever able to reach ecstasy and rapture; and in no one instance can it continue for any time at its highest pitch and altitude. The spirits evaporate, the nerves relax, the fabric is disordered, and the enjoyment quickly degenerates into fatigue and uneasiness. But pain often, good God, how often! rises to torture and agony; and the longer it continues, it becomes still more genuine agony and torture. Patience is exhausted, courage languishes, melancholy seizes us, and nothing terminates our misery but the removal of its cause, or another event, which is the sole cure of all evil, but which, from our natural folly, we regard with still greater horror and consternation.

Dialogues Concerning Natural Religion, Part 10, David Hume.

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/4583/4583-h/4583-h.htm

Humans, and animals generally, are much more capable of experiencing pain than pleasure.  You cannot have a continuous orgasm, but you can be in continuous agony.
This is my problem. Obviously we were not designed, but if we were, it was by a sick bastard. We seem way, way more able to experience extensive and continual levels of suffering compared to pleasure.

I've talked about this before, I feel that even when I was mentally healthy my capacity for suffering was exponentially higher than my capacity for happiness. It's not like the scale goes from -100 to +100, it's more like it goes from -1,000,000 to +100. Added to that the fact that time appears to grind to a halt when we are suffering to prolong it and whizzes by when we are happy, and you have a recipe for disaster Sad I'd be interested to know if others feel the same.

Would I put up with one day of torture for one day of bliss? No! I wouldn't even put up with one day of torture for 100 years of bliss.
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It's official. The universe is dying. - by ignoramus - August 10, 2015 at 9:12 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 9:15 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Minimalist - August 10, 2015 at 9:17 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by abaris - August 10, 2015 at 9:19 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2015 at 10:09 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 10:15 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Anomalocaris - August 10, 2015 at 10:16 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2015 at 10:19 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 10:24 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vorlon13 - August 10, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Cyberman - August 10, 2015 at 11:22 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vixene - August 10, 2015 at 10:27 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Pyrrho - August 10, 2015 at 10:28 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vixene - August 10, 2015 at 10:34 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by bennyboy - August 11, 2015 at 12:15 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Anomalocaris - August 11, 2015 at 12:52 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 3:29 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Longhorn - August 11, 2015 at 3:39 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by robvalue - August 11, 2015 at 5:14 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by ignoramus - August 11, 2015 at 5:32 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Pyrrho - August 11, 2015 at 11:20 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by robvalue - August 11, 2015 at 12:23 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Pyrrho - August 11, 2015 at 12:45 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 7:23 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by ignoramus - August 11, 2015 at 7:40 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 7:46 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Anomalocaris - August 11, 2015 at 11:47 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 8:15 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by ignoramus - August 11, 2015 at 7:48 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 8:17 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Anomalocaris - August 11, 2015 at 11:45 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 11, 2015 at 1:47 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by brewer - August 11, 2015 at 9:16 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vorlon13 - August 11, 2015 at 10:05 am
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by robvalue - August 11, 2015 at 12:49 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Shinagami - August 11, 2015 at 12:59 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by robvalue - August 11, 2015 at 1:06 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by Alex K - August 12, 2015 at 6:18 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by vorlon13 - August 12, 2015 at 7:01 pm
RE: It's official. The universe is dying. - by ignoramus - August 13, 2015 at 12:58 am

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